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  • in reply to: 60 Zhuk-MEs for Indian AF? #2568452
    Nick_76
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    The AIM-120C5 is in no way comparable to the R-77 its far superior in every possible sense ,

    Please elucidate how & why- it’d be a nice thing.

    The R-77 is boradly comparable to the AIM-120A with the R-77 having a better effective engagement range.

    More details the better…it’d be interesting to compare the two types & flesh out the details..

    I am afraid we will seen be loosing the BVR advantage. One can argue we will get the KS-172 but thats a different class of missile.

    True…like using a hammer to swat a fly..

    The only other option in similar class which can outclass the AIM-120C5/7 will be the Meteor AAM

    Yes but:

    1. Is it available for integration onto Russian planes & that too in the IAF?
    2. Cost! At ~ 1 Mln a round (I guess, better figures would be appreciated)…it’d be a Billion $ for just a 1000 Missile batch! :rolleyes:

    We’re better off investing in the Astra and improved R-77 variants. 😎

    in reply to: 60 Zhuk-MEs for Indian AF? #2568454
    Nick_76
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    So you are unhappy they are getting a reasonable radar they can have now instead of a better radar that is not totally off the drawing board yet…

    I know the reasons. But that doesnt make the fact any more palatable. 😉

    You do know that they don’t weld radars into aircraft anymore. When the newer radar is ready they could buy a few and transfer those they have bought with the aircraft to other Migs in service elsewhere in their armed forces.

    And replace what they bought at substantial cost a few years back? Wont happen, not for the MiGs imho.

    MKI’s- per some reports, yes, a similar approach is planned..

    Mass production for export should help the production infrastructure in Russia and make upgrades of Russian aircaft easier and cheaper, as well as the near future production of aircraft easier too.

    I doubt the IAF is looking at this wrt strategically helping Phazatron and themselves in the long run, tho’ I’d love to be proven wrong.

    in reply to: 60 Zhuk-MEs for Indian AF? #2568595
    Nick_76
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    Is the Zhuk-MF even ready? Certainly the Zhuk-A isn’t.

    Nope but its supposed to have taken over the funding & priority of the (hence) defunct Zhuk MSFE. As of last year it was on a MiG 29 SMT (i think) being test flown..

    The Zhuk-A will take another five-six years to turn into some reasonable prototype or something serious..and the IAF doesnt seem to want to wait..

    The Elta 2052 was a good choice imho…but again, cost and developmental time, plus the lack of proper BVR armament (derby has less range vs R-77) probably made the whole thing too unweildy..

    So Zhuk ME it is..

    Not a bad radar… >120 km vs 5 Sq M, 10 Target TWS, 4 Target engage with RVV-AE/ R-77, usual A2G modes, with improvements to resolution..

    The APG 68 V9 is said to be in the range of 90- 105 km for a 5 Sq Mtr target, (extrapolation from its marketing claims etc)

    This is the best radar available to the PAF in the conceivable future..

    And the MiG upgrade will conceivably have the usual RAM etc, so for IAF requirements its not a bad thing at all.

    However…what will be interesting is whether they incorporate a standard Russian datalink or an Israeli one to interface it to the Phalcons and IAF ADGES..

    And the weak element in the matchup is that even if the IAFs MiG 29s detect the PAF F-16s first (which I doubt will have the HAVE BLUE RCS reduction measures on account of sensitivity of tech leakage), the PAF planes have the AMRAAM C5 which is definitely equal to the R-77..so the long lance on both sides is equal or even advantage PAF..so whilst the detection may tip to the IAF, engagement is still a mugs game…plus both sides will have AWACS anyways..

    in reply to: 60 Zhuk-MEs for Indian AF? #2568742
    Nick_76
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    True, imho, the IAF is going for the tried and tested, inexpensive option to fast forward the upgrade..

    The Mirage 2000-H similarly is to be brought to Dash- 5 or Dash-9 level…again with the slotted array RDY 2 Mk 2 radar.. 😡

    in reply to: Indian Missile news and speculations #1812573
    Nick_76
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    Austin that article was by Pravin Sawheny

    Another idiot when it comes to non attributed C&P but better than Sengupta

    Amazing to see a DRDO baiter like him swallowing his tongue and reporting. Guess Pillai & co must be having a quiet chuckle. Not that they are particularly bothered with him anyways

    in reply to: Indian Air Force News & Discussion June- Aug 2006 #2568761
    Nick_76
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    When was it reported/ who did? Sengupta iirc was first to break it- glad to be corrected if I am wrong.

    Theres no doubt that this man lacks ethics, plagiarizes like hell and is probably an all round “gentleman” (read the reverse)…but what appears is that he generally gets thrown a bone by his sources..then he promptly searches for the specs/ details of it on the net, copies verbatim..or even a similar items..

    Of course, its very hard separating fact from fiction, but with some half a dozen reports while reading this jacka$$’s, one can normally understand whats what

    Meanwhile, it seems F/A-18 E/F may be facing a roadblock…Boeing does what Lock Mart was planning..

    http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/07/11/Navigation/177/207734/Boeing+aims+to+beat+Indian+arms+limits+.html

    Basically if it doesnt come with a top notch avionics fit current with todays standards, the Soooper Hornet or the Lawn Dart for that matter, dont stand a chance..at all.

    Report does not mention AESA in particular but avionics/ weapons…so…one may speculate that this primarily refers to the A/C’s EW fit, its LDP/ sensor- ie Litening replacement, and the latest AMRAAMs etc?

    Usual caveats..

    At any rate, the F/A-18E/Fs USP are its AESA and other avionics thingmajigs..without those, its worthless. :p

    in reply to: Indian Air Force News & Discussion June- Aug 2006 #2568784
    Nick_76
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    Not word to word, but many keywords and the gist are the same. This guy also makes stuff up.

    Can you scan just that part & put it up? To be fair to this jacka$$ he has been right on some occasions too. Popeye acquisition for India was first reported by him, ditto Elta SPJs and SAfrican Health monitoring system for MKI…

    So he could have got some scoop on India/ Russia cooperating on some events, but to fill out the article he plagiarizes..

    in reply to: 60 Zhuk-MEs for Indian AF? #2568786
    Nick_76
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    Fairly disappointing if the Indian Air Force goes for the Zhuk-ME over the MFE..or even the Zhuk-A in development, last seems remote at this point, and not even the Elta-2052.

    The Zhuk ME is a good radar, but not cutting edge. :rolleyes: 😎

    in reply to: Indian Air Force News & Discussion June- Aug 2006 #2569388
    Nick_76
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    Word to word rip off?

    in reply to: Indian Air Force News & Discussion June- Aug 2006 #2569407
    Nick_76
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    This seems to be quite convincing

    http://forceindia.net/feature.asp

    BrahMos successfully test-fires its land attack version
    By Pravin Sawhney

    The Pokharan range in Rajasthan made famous by the 1998 nuclear tests witnessed another spectacular event on May 31. Fired at a range of 53km, the

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    BrahMos land attack cruise missile hit the bull’s eye on the target. For the army chief, General J.J. Singh and the nearly 200 army officers who saw the test-firing, it was a impressive show. The army had sought an accuracy of five to 10metres at maximum range, but what they will get is a better accuracy, and zero Circular Error Probability (CEP); CEP is defined as the area where 96 per cent of rounds will fall. The army chief, it is learnt, accepted the induction of BrahMos on the spot. Taking cue, the Indian artillery has already earmarked a light battery unit to move to Hyderabad for conversion to BrahMos missile unit. The paper work between the Army Headquarters and the defence ministry will follow. Subject to acceptance by the army, the government had already cleared the induction of a BrahMos battery in the 10 th defence plan (2002-2007). Once inducted, the BrahMos unit will be a part of the 40 artillery division, the only artillery division of the army. Insiders say that the good things he heard about the missile from President Dr APJ Abdul Kalam, and especially the army chief who hopes to have the BrahMos battery operationalised by end of 2007 prompted Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to visit the BrahMos Aerospace complex in Delhi cantonment on June 28. Here is what the BrahMos land attack cruise missile will do in a war:

    A battery of BrahMos will have four Mobile Autonomous Launchers (MAL), each with three missiles. This means that a total of 12 missiles can be fired at 12 different targets within 30 seconds. The MAL can operate as a battery covering a frontage of approximately 500 by 600km, or a single MAL can be detached from the battery deployed independently to engage targets outside the coverage zone of the battery. This indicates operational flexibility, and will make detection by the enemy extremely difficult. Similarly, a regiment with three batteries will be able to fire at 36 targets simultaneously within one minute. Considering that the missile has a supersonic speed of up to Mach 2.8, it will be impossible to intercept it after launch. Moreover, once the fire-and-forget missile seeker, which reportedly is multi-mode, locks on the target within 40km, it will stay locked until it hits the target. Unlike, a radar scan seeker, a multi-mode seeker works in real-time to identify a target from amongst the cluster of likely targets. Just in case the multi-mode seeker fails to function, the missile with the help of the Global Positioning System is capable of achieving 10metres accuracy at maximum range. Overall the picture thus far is that the army will be able to fire the supersonic speed, non-stoppable, BrahMos missiles accurately on to 36 different strategic and operational (both slow and fast moving) targets within a minute. Because of its speed, BrahMos will outmatch the sub-sonic US Tomahawk cruise missile in being able to cover three times more dispersion to facilitate hitting moving targets, and will have an impact nine times more than the US cruise missile. The targets could range from command, control and communication centres, thermal power plants, harbours and so on. This is what shock and awe even before the war is physically joined is all about.

    The highpoint of the May 31 test-firing was that the user himself did it in operational configuration. For the last one year, 17 artillery officers and men under Lt Col Rajesh Joshi had been working closely with the scientists at the BrahMos Integration Complex (BIC) in Hyderabad . These personnel, without any assistance from the scientists, fired the BrahMos launcher that was operationally integrated with the Mobile Command Post. This was the third and final test of the BrahMos land attack system. The other feature of this test-firing was that the missile hit the target in top attack mode unlike the previous tests done by the anti-ship BrahMos where the requirement is to hit the target horizontally. Moreover, the test was done in an extremely hostile weather with the temperature in Pokharan soaring to 52 degree Centigrade. “Hitting the bull’s eye was remarkable. BrahMos is a no problem project with a flawless design. The army has cleared the missile for production,” says an elated Dr A. Sivathanu Pillai, the Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of BrahMos Aerospace. The first test-firing of the land attack missile was done on 26 September 2004 from the Balasore test range to maximum range of 290km. The second was held in Pokharan on 21 December 2004 where scientists tested the missile alone at a range of 31km achieving 0.93metres accuracy. The army chief General J.J. Singh as well the director general field artillery were present for this test-firing.

    What Dr Pillai did not share with FORCE are four other unique characteristics of this project. First, India has already mastered the liquid-fuel ramjet propulsion technology that has come from Russia . “We have done successful atmospheric tests and are in a position to indigenise propulsion, the component which in the BrahMos joint venture is Russia ‘s contribution to the project,” says an officer associated with the land attack version. Second, The BrahMos trajectory has a unique software that allows it to change course seven times in a single flight. This implies that including the initial and terminal phases, the trajectory can change direction nine times before hitting its target. This makes the missile extremely difficult to intercept. Third, work on the air force version has commenced and flight tests will be held in summers next year. The air version will be lighter and will also be equipped with a multimode seeker. And lastly, the blue print for the Mark II BrahMos version is ready and is under consideration. Improvements have been sought on trajectory design, guidance system and warhead, say insiders. “We are looking for lighter missile, with a more compact warhead, better seeker and faster speed up to Mach 8 as would be available in scramjet technology,” says an officer with BrahMos.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force News & Discussion June- Aug 2006 #2569411
    Nick_76
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    Posted by A Sharma on BR..

    Obvious error is that Irbis is PESA not AESA…could Sengupta be mixing up designation, yet be correct? Time will tell..

    09 Jul 2006
    From Force(just snippet)

    However, the most far-reaching improvement will be in the field of avionics, starting with replacement of the existing NIIP Tikhomirov-built NO11M Bars (panther) passive phased-array fire-control radar with the Irbis (snow leopard) active phased-array radar that is now being co-developed by the DRDO’s Hyderabad-based Electronics and Radar Development Establishment and Tikhomirov NIIP at a cost of US$160 million. The Irbis, to be first installed on the last 50 Su-30MKIs to be assembled by HAL between 2010 and 2012 (and later retrofitted on earlier Su-30MKIs), will enable the aircraft’s tandem-seat cockpit to be ‘de-coupled’, i.e., both the pilot and weapons systems operator (WSO) will then be able to simultaneously operate the Irbis in both air combat and air-to-ground precision strike modes, with each aircrew focussing on his own air tasking and being able to handle high-volume precision strikes and time-sensitive target acquisition/designation in a network-centric joint battlespace characterised by high operational tempo. In addition, both the pilot and WSO will be wearing Thales Avionics-built TopOwl-F helmet-mounted sights (HMS). Currently, only the pilot wears the Sura-K HMS for flying the aircraft and undertaking air combat and defensive countermeasures missions, with the WSO taking care of navigation, ground radar mapping and target designation, and deriving delivery solutions for precision-guided munitions (PGM). The Irbis will also have a 4-metre resolution (against 20 metres for the Bars) for acquiring ground-based static and moving targets when operating in the synthetic aperture radar (SAR) mode. When coupled with a distributed processor-cum-storage computer (now being developed by the DRDO’s Bangalore-based Defence Avionics and Research Establishment, or DARE) that will carry previously uploaded radar/photo imagery of known ground targets, the Irbis will be able to acquire up to four ground targets via its SAR mode and pass on their coordinates to non-radar equipped aircraft like the Jaguar IS and MiG-27M that will in turn download these coordinates into the PGMs that they are carrying just prior to weapons release.

    DARE, which has already developed a Su-30MKI-specific open-architecture core avionics computer (CAC), is also developing a related fibre-optic communications network with a data throughput rate of 1Gb/second to augment the aircraft’s existing internal MIL-STD-1553B digital databus that has a 1Mb/second data transmission rate. The new network will enable frame-grab capture of video footage of ground targets taken by the Su-30MKI’s pylon-mounted RAFAEL-built Litening 2/3 target acquisition/designation pod to be down-linked in real-time to man-portable ground stations carried by friendly ground force commanders who in turn will positively verify the targets’ validity. Consequently, this will drastically reduce the time taken to ‘find, fix, fight and finish’ hostile ground targets (static and mobile) through airpower.

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2049032
    Nick_76
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    Don’t take FORCE seriously, unless its an interview.

    True, but Prasun Sengupta does seem to have some sources..to get an overall theme for the article, rest he plagiarizes because of his sheer laziness and dishonesty..

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2049091
    Nick_76
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    http://www.forceindia.net/feature1.asp

    The French government’s two top agencies for vetting armaments exports , the Commission InterministĂ©rielle D’Exportation des MatĂ©riels de Guerre (CIEEMG) and the DĂ©lĂ©gation GĂ©nĂ©rale pour l’Armement ( DGA ) , reportedly gave Armaris the official go-ahead in mid-May to give detailed classified briefings to the PN on an upgraded variant of the Scorpene — tentatively called the Marlin. This SSK will be modified to fire Boeing’s UGM-84G Harpoon anti-ship cruise missile while staying submerged. The UGM-84G is enclosed in a capsule, which glides to the surface after launch from the SSK’s torpedo tube. When the capsule breaks the surface, the front and end caps are ejected and the missile’s booster is fired. The PN’s submarine fleet, now comprising two Armaris-built Agosta 90B-class SSKs (Khalid and Saad, with the third — the Mesma AIP-equipped Hamza — to be inducted in December 2007), two Agosta 70B-class SSKs (Hasmat and Hurmat) and four Daphne-class SSKs (Ghazi, Hangor, Mangro and Shushuk), is currently faced with increasing obsolescence. Present plans call for replacing some of the Daphnes and Agosta 70Bs with the new single-hulled, AIP-equipped SSKs acquisitions between 2012 and 2019. RFPs for the new SSKs were released by the PN on May 10 and those officially invited to respond included Armaris (with its Marlin on offer), Germany’s Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft or HDW (with its Class 214 SSK equipped with polymer electrolyte membrane fuel-cell-based AIP), China State Shipbuilding Corp (with its Yuan-class SSK on offer), Sweden’s Kockums (offering its Stirling AIP-equipped A-26 SSK), and a joint venture of Italy’s Fincantieri and Russia’s Rubin Central Marine Design Bureau that is proposing the Amur 1650. The short-listing of bidders will be done this August, following which price negotiations are expected to be concluded for contract signature by next February. Given the fact that all existing SSKs of the PN are of French origin, it is widely believed that such longstanding relationship will give Armaris the decisive edge in the competition.

    On the other hand, in order to avoid antagonising India, the CIEEMG and DGA have in an unprecedented move authorised Armaris to co-develop the revolutionary SMX-21 SSK with Indian entities such as the state-owned Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO), BrahMos Aerospace Ltd, TATA Power’s Strategic Electronics Division, Larsen & Toubro, Godrej & Boyce, etc. The SMX-21, which was first unveiled at the Euronaval 2002 exhibition in Paris in October 2002, is being proposed with a diesel-electric propulsion system and a reconfigurable outer hull that will host a diverse array of stealthy, mission-oriented autonomous underwater vehicles (AUV) for conducting undersea ocean surveillance, reconnaissance and communications operations within a network-centric environment. The SMX-21’s crew complement will work and live in one half of the vessel, totally isolated from the compartments housing the weapons suite and the propulsion system. The SSK will also be equipped with a novel two-way, three-channel (voice, imagery and data) X-band SHF-SATCOM communications suite that will be operational even when the SSK stays submerged.

    😎 :confused:

    in reply to: Mig-29 questions & RC400 #2570252
    Nick_76
    Participant

    Shadows in the SAR picture??!? It looks fraudulent.

    in reply to: General Discussion #307880
    Nick_76
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    But isen’t Iraq or Talebans army adequate enough for being treated like a soldier?…It’s just juridical BS…Take away your human rights just becouse you don’t wear the right badges…

    Yup, they follow the most amazing rights system in the world with their captives, to be given this “right”. You reap what you sow.

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