Bhutan.
I would say that Bhutan needs a transport ac AF since IAF cant meet all their needs
The IAF Ks, were PGM capable
This was posted on Acig.org
R77 & R73E exist
Per brochures which I have from last airshow:
R73E
Max launch range, km 30
Weight, kg:
launch 105
warhead 8.0
Target g-number 12
Fighter-type target hit probability 0.6-0.8
Dimensions, m:
length 2.90
diameter 0.17
horizontal stabiliser span 0.51
“The missile features an all-aspect IR homing
system, a proximity fuse and a rod-type warhead.
The R-73E is one of the world’s first all-aspect
short-range missiles. Owing to the sensitive IR
seeker, the missile is capable of engaging not
only receding, but also approaching and colliding-
course air targets.
The missile can attack targets in any initial
position at designation angles of ± 45 degrees
flying at speeds of up to 2,500 km/h at altitudes
ranging from 0.02 to 20 km. Minimum range of
launch is only 300 m when fired in the rear hemisphere.
The R-73E missile is superior to the world’s
best counterparts in terms of basic characteristics
on which depends its combat effectiveness
in dogfight. The missile is designed to arm the
MiG-21-93, MiG-29, Su-39, Su-27 and Su-30
aircraft”
R77
The RVV-AE missile is designed to engage
fighters, attack aircraft, bombers, helicopters
and military transport aircraft by day and night,
in all weather conditions, from all directions,
against the earth and sea background with
enemy ECM and evasive manoeuvres.
The RVV-AE missile has an active radar homing
head and inertial guidance system with radio
correction, which allows in-flight target acquisition
and re-targeting. The active radar homer
improves autonomy of the carrier and ensures
effective implementation of the “fire-and-forget”
principle.
The RVV-AE missile family features a modular
design with a rod-type warhead.
The RVV-AE can engage targets flying at
speeds of up to 3,600 km/h at altitudes ranging
from 0.02 to 25 km. Minimum range of launch
in the rear hemisphere is 300 m. Maximum target
elevation (depression) at the missile carrier
level flight can attain 10 km. The RVV-AE launch
does not impose limitations on the carrier’s gload.
Max launch range, km:
against fighter-type targets 50
against bomber-type targets 80
Weight, kg:
launch 175
warhead 22.5
Target g-load 9
Fighter-type target hit probability 0.6-0.7
Dimensions, m:
length 3.60
diameter 0.20
horizontal stabiliser span 0.70
If the 29 MRCA sent to India a year back had the latest engines, even it smoked
And in some EF videos too, it appears that its engine is smoking
Could it be that its entirely a matter of regime/ operating altitude etc?
Is the US going to give downgraded JSFs to the UK now? Since the UK will be allowed to tinker around with the innards? :diablo:
Bye Bye Rafale for the UK
Bye Bye Navalized Typhoon
Bye Bye Gripen Naval
We could make a song out of this :p
who cares if he has or not? it showed his ignorance and irational thought pattern and by responding unfortunately yours as well.
Just because its Indian people keep sticking up for the LCA on every point, Guys NOTHING IS PERFECT so if some one makes a critics let it be!The blabering of a few enthusiasts on a forum isnt going to decide the fate/quality or capability of ANY aircraft.
Well put -with your response- you showed your scintillating brilliance as well, as compared to yours truly.
As regards Indian people and the LCA, you could have knocked us all out- I thought the LCA was a project from India, and Indians would know most about it and respond. But what would I know.
Incidentally this is why I asked for this thread to be locked, since the trolling gents cant stop trolling, and then others pile on, and when “Indians” respond, we end up with “I am Mahatma Gandhi”, be as noble as me type comments from the more enlightened ones and all sorts of extraneous bilge which is hardly necessary for this thread anyways
Of course, by not reading the thread from the past 2 pages and seeing the difference between criticism and subtle flaming, as even mentioned by the mod, you really made a very valid point.
Gee, I am suitably abashed and impressed Matt, you showed me the way.
Request to mod: Please lock this thread. Its pointless.
Gee, now what will people crib about?
Righttt, Chinawhite…you dont see anything offensive at all…nor would you, given what the same gentleman said earlier, was warned by a mod for, and is now trying to repeat..yet again.
“Its high time for a truly international project not a skunk like the JSF. Perhaps the LCA block II could be one.”
First unnecessary and useless comparisons of the LCA to the F-22 and now the JSF.
So thanks for your childish rant. Move along.
Uh oh, bring out the air freshener, “somebody”s back !
…..you can launch the R-27R1 with use of the HMS(Mig-29A), but you have to make visual contact with your target. So, the BVR is impossible with the Schlem. (“Schlem” translated to english means simply “HELMET”).
When not using the HMS, you see blips on the IPV screen, the CVM selects the most dangerous one from a group of ten detected targets. While are you waiting for Dmax, you`ve got time to handle some switches(air conditioning, cockpit illumination,.. 😀 ). You fire a missile just by pressing single button, it`s never been so easy. During that combat procedure you`re keeping your hands on stick and throttle. No doubt that Mig-29A outclasses the F-16A in BVR as well.
Thanks for the info but in Perkhevat (sp?) mode dont all blips except one disappear, so is the 29 A is better than the -16 A as far as radars SA goes, does it have true TWS? :diablo:
Heh…you seem to have a view that by adding an analog gauge to the cockpit you`re automatically saying “that is poor ergonomics”. Therefore most of you “wessies” are having these cockpit ratings.
1. one CRT, all-analog gauges, like the Mig-29A, poor ergonomics :rolleyes:
2. three large color LCD with a few back-up gauges, like the Su-27SM, decent but not good ergonomics
3. all glass cockpit, Su-35UB mock-up cabin, good but not no way as good as the US. 😀
The sad thing is that you know a **** how russian cockpits work, because you never have flown the Mig or Su, you just like LCDs, like small kids. Complaining about “clutter and excess switchology” before having mastered the russian cockpit, not to mention the cyrilic alphabet seems to be very shortsighted. What I also ment was that it is ridiculous to value a cockpit in terms of “ergonomics” just by looking at the picture.
I think we are speaking a different language not English for you to mangle my statements so
As regards kids, now you know my age heh? Next thing you will be trying to convince us all that even spaceships should only have dial pointers and anyone saying otherwise- kill him, kill him :p 😀
1. What makes you think i am a wessie?
2. As I have already said many times, its not analogue dials but placement of the sole CRT or MFD that matters, look at the Mirage 2000H cockpit vs the 29 A.
3.Ergonomics is much more than just MFDs
I never had and never wanted, but I`ve got hands-on experience with soviet aircrafts such as the mig-21, 29 and others from the maintenance POV. Please do not be angry with me, but all you`ve told me is nothing more than false roumours spread by some species.
Well you are equally stubborn and unable to listen to other pov :p
I`m getting some kind of advs banner “image hosted…”
Try googling for Vayu Sena, and then going to IAF cockpits section
The tripod website does not permit hotlinking I had forgotten
Geez…..and what are you trying to prove with that? Those are ridiculous rumours again and no one care about them. You are making an elephant from a fly! Then why is India still using them, if they have had bad experiences with them. Even they want to buy new Migs-29 and modernize the old ones. This is a fact, which proves your claims to be wrong.regards
Martinez
Well , for one they arent rumours, they were fact
Second, MiG is being co-opted now, because they have a good deal already integrated and the IAF wants the upgrade asap, not wait to tinker with a Indo-Israeli- French hybrid
Third, Fedorovs Irkutsk is now involved, so thats better from IAFs pov
Fourth, it is open secret in IAF that MiG has really sc*rewed up in the past
in terms of their commitment to customer and often overhyped claims
If Japan develops a fifth gen or even 4th gen fighter++, the expense of the program will ensure that any collaborator laughs all the way to the bank
Join BAE Swerve and propose this tieup, and dont forget to remember me a decade from now on!!!
It will take an Indo-Pak war for Russian eqpt to shine :rolleyes: 😎
Aurcov, I wouldnt underestimate Russian eqpt – its rugged and may not look or feel as fancy as the latest American thingmajig, but it usually works and works well
Crobato, nice information
Press cheers for for that excellent post
In retrospect my use of words “poorly designed” was not necessary, but I meant to say that too many dials and cluttered instruments can overwhelm a pilot, even if there is a logic to it all
And that even MFDs when placed should take into account overall positioning and placement
Of course in IAF the pilots havee to learn positioning till they can recite it backwards in their sleep but its still a challenge for rookies
What I think is part of the issue is that pilots transition between western and eastern ac and thats harder than moving between MIGs where as you saym the same logic applies so a newer pilot can pick it up easily
I could ask my partner when she gets home, but she’ll probably be unwilling. She’ll have had a long day. a long drive home, & she hates translating anyway. Maybe tomorrow.
It looks very like Replica, doesn’t it?
Leave good things well alone :diablo: