Nick_76HAL R&D etc
Design and development of aircraft, airborne systems and equipment
• Advanced Light Helicopter • Light Combat Helicopter • Light Combat Aircraft • Intermediate Jet Trainer • Avionics & Simulators • Development of rotables • Development of Materials, Castings, Forgings & New Processes
Upgradation of existing fleet of aircraft with modern avionics and equipment
• Jaguar NAVWASS upgrade • MiG-21 BIS upgrade • MiG-27M upgrade • Avro upgrade • Sea Harrier upgrade • Cheetah/Chetak upgrade
Technology development programmes
• Finite element modeling of helicopter rotor blades • Fly-by-light tail rotor control • Application of Smart materials to helicopter dynamic systems • Development of elastomeric bearings • Development of DS blades for engines • Development of Application Specific Integrated Circuits • Phased Array Antenna • Vacuum diffusion welding of dis-similar materials • Composite materials technology
Co-development and co-production with leading aerospace companies
• Multi role transport aircraft • High powered Shakti engine for ALH • Multi Mode Radar
Indigenization and import substitution
• Mission computer • Multi Function Displays • INGPS • Aircraft & Helicopter Accessories • Canopy
Maintenance support for non-HAL manufactured aircraft
• Mirage 2000 Overhaul • Sea harrier upgrade • Product support for MiG aircraft variants not produced by HAL
7.1 HAL has 9 R&D centres co-located with the production Divisions which strive to bring out new products, continuous upgradation of existing products besides providing services in the areas of modernisation, technological upgradation, modifications replacement schemes and cost-effective solutions to meet the emerging requirements of its customers.
The, Ministry of Defence has furnished a detailed note on the major Research, Design and Development projects undertaken by the company in last 10 years period in the areas of Aircraft / Helicopter / Aero-Engines, and Accessories and Avionics as follows.
Aircraft a) Intermediate jet trainer HJT-36 b) LCA development tasks as decided with ADA c) Jaguar Navwass Upgrade d) MiG-27M Upgrade e) Sea Harrier upgrade f) Avro Upgrade g) Role modifications on Dornier DO-228 aircraft Helicopter h) ALH / Completion of utility variant development i) Weapon systems integration on ALH j) Civil certification of ALH k) Launch of Light combat Helicopter l) Upgrades on Cheetah (Cheetal) and Chetak (Chetan).
Aero-Engines m) Pilot-less Target Aircraft Engine (PTAE-7) n) Gas Turbine Starter Unit for GEF404
o) Engine Test beds Accessories and Avionics for Aircraft and Helicopter (LCA, IJT, ALH & Upgrade programmes)
p) Hydraulic System Units like Pumps and Actuators. q) Undercarriages and actuators
r) Electrical System items like Generator Control and Protection Unit, Static inverters, etc s) Environmental Control Systems Units
t) Multi Mode Radar u) Mission Computer v) Communication System Units w) Identification of Friend or Foe (IFF) Units x) Radio Altimeters. y) Solid State Flight Data Recorders
Achievements during last 10 years: • Certification of ALH (both military & civil variants), Jaguar Navwass Upgrade, Cheetal (re-engined & upgraded Cheetah helicopter) has been completed. • LCA and IJT prototypes were produced and are under flight evaluation. • Line Replaceable Units and Systems components developed for LCA, IJT and ALH have been productionised. These units are flight operational on these aircraft. • Patents have been obtained for the Gas Turbine starter (for LCA) and the PTAE-7 (for Lakshya) engine developed. These have been productionised. • Jaguar and MiG-27M aircraft have been upgraded without any support from the OEMs.”
7.2 Regarding technological upgradation for enhancing R&D base of HAL, the Ministry has stated as under:
“HAL has acquired, adapted and developed several technologies over the years. New technologies are inducted through technology transfer and through indigenous development.
Continuous augmentation/upgradation of facilities is carried out through annual capital budget. HAL has taken up a number of technology upgradation projects funded from the R&D reserves of the Company covering design, manufacturing and process technologies.
Some of these projects are:
• Open system architecture mission computer
• Digital Map generation system
• Virtual cockpit system
• Smart multifunction displays
• Solid State Flight Data Recorder
• Application of Smart materials to helicopter dynamic systems
• Development of elastomeric bearings
• Development of Application Specific Integrated Circuits
• Spread spectrum technology
• Direct digital synthesis
• Surface mounted devices technology
• Thick film and thin film micro electronic modules
• Phased Array Antenna
• Vacuum diffusion welding of dis-similar materials
• Composite materials technology
The quality management system of HAL has been upgraded to ISO – 9001 – 2000 standard . HAL has also implemented ISO 14001 – 1996 EMS standard and obtained environmental system certification.
HAL’s facilities and quality systems have been audited and approved by Boeing, Airbus, Eurocopter and Bell for whom HAL is producing airframe work packages. Presently, Boeing Production Systems , NADCAP, AS9100 standards etc are being put in place in the core manufacturing areas of HAL. Further, HAL has identified centers of excellence within the company for composites and engine components.”
7.3 The Committee on defence, in their 9th Report on ‘Defence PSUs’ had stressed on self-reliance or indigenisation of products and technology through emphasis on R&D and exploitation of global market through export.
The Ministry, in reply to this recommendation of the Committee, has furnished the following information: “HAL has identified indigenization as one of the thrust areas to achieve self reliance. In addition to the indigenous development projects like IJT, ALH, Aircraft & Helicopter Upgrades, development of high value airborne components and spares required for both new projects and overhaul projects have been taken up. A Design Perspective Plan for the period 2006-2012 has been drawn up identifying the new development and technology projects to be taken up. Several Company funded projects are also identified and the estimated outlay for these Company funded projects is Rs. 1096 Cr during this period. The number of items indigenized during the last 3 years for both HAL products and non-HAL products is furnished below:
Year 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06
No. of items indigenized 5857 5136 4050
The major technology initiatives launched include :
a) Stealth technologies to be adapted on Light Combat Helicopter
b) Open system architecture Mission Computer for deployment on future de-novo and upgrade programmes of combat aircraft
c) Proposed joint technology group in the area of aircraft accessories and systems with IIT, Kanpur.
d) Development of inertial navigation and Global Positioning System in collaboration with RCI, DRDO laboratories, reputed academic institutes like IISc & IITs.
HAL has also entered into working arrangements with many of the renowned companies abroad in pursuance of its programmes. As a part of new business initiatives, Joint Ventures have been formed and are also in the pipeline with companies of Indian and foreign origin.
Major cooperation areas in the last few years are listed below.
• Mission Computer Development along with DARE, DRDO for Jaguar Strike and MiG 27 aircraft.
• Design, Testing and Quality Assurance packages with National Aeronautical Laboratories, CSIR for Wind Tunnel testing, Composites, Flight Control Laws, Saras systems.
• Multi Mode Radar development along with LRDE, DRDO.
• Tactical Mission System development by ADA and its integration on ALH.
• Digital Electronic Engine Control Systems for GTRE.
• Radar Processing Computers from DARE, DRDO for SU-30 programme
• MiG 27 upgrade programme with DARE.
• Project on ‘Smart Materials’ along with Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore.
• Development of Infra Red Suppressor technology with Indian Institute of Technology, Mumbai.
• Integration of Radar Warning Receiver designed by BEL and Chaff and Flare Dispensers of BDL.
• Cooperation with ELTA in upgrade programmes of Sea Harrier and Dornier role conversion for Navy.
• Cooperation with ELBIT in Stimulator Technology for Air Combat Stimulator and IJT Stimulator programmes.
• Cooperation with M/s Goodrich in the area of Hydro Mechanical Engine Control System.
• Wind Tunnel testing and Aerodynamic Studies with centres at Russia and France.
• Co development of Shakti Engine with Turbomeca, France.
• Joint venture with British Aerospace (BAe –HAL) in the area of Software solutions of Aeronautical applications
• Proposed Joint Venture with SAMTEL for development and manufacture of Multi-function Displays (MFDs) and with ELBIT in the areas of Avionics and Stimulators.
Nick_76From BR again..source Parliamentary report, production numbers at HAL
The major production programs envisaged in the Perspective Plan for the 11th Plan period (2007 – 2012) are furnished below:
2007-08 2008-09 2009-10 2010-11 2011-12
Jaguar 8 4 – – –
SU-30MKI 13 15 15 16 16
HAWK 1 14 24 3 –
LCA 3 4 8 8 4
IJT 1 3 8 12 16
DO-228 4 4 6 6 6
ALH 24 28 28 28 28
Multirole Combat Aircraft (MRCA) and Multi-role Transport Aircraft (MTA) included in the Perspective Plan are not shown above for the following reasons:
• MRCA: Request for Proposal is yet to be issued by Air HQs for selection of the aircraft :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
• MTA : Co-development of this aircraft was delayed due to delay in confirmation of the quantity required by Russian Air Force.
• HAL is pursuing additional programmes like manufacture of Light Observation helicopters as replacement to Cheetah/Chetak, weaponised version of ALH, Upgrades on Sea Harrier, MiG-29 and Mirage 2000 aircraft during the 11th plan.
Based on the Perspective Plan, annual production plans are finalized considering the contractual timeframes for each project and new business initiatives. HAL is making all efforts to fulfill the above Perspective Plan.”
Nick_76Better to have a plane that flies but getting it up there is expensive and a challenge, then to have a plane that cant fly because of sanctions, I guess..
The only way I see the IAF going for US gear is politics (nuke deal), and I’d be very surprised if the US can even attempt to meet the DPP conditions (90% TOT & 30% offset) plus guarantee against sanctions (and those guarantees arent worth the paper they are printed on..)
Just copied this from BR..for indigenization and all that jazz..
roject Total No. of items involved 2002-03 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07
The % figures refer to indigenous content
Advanced Light Helicopter
9096 7210 79.3% 7310 80.4% 7657 84.2% 7874 86.6% 7932 87.2%
Cheetah / Chetak
7822 6873 87.9% 6903 88.2% 7023 89.9% 7049 90.1% 7053 90.2%
Jaguar
27098 23000 84.9% 23268 85.9% 23573 87% 23926 88.3% 23968 88.4%
Dornier
12242 7445 60.8% 7445 60.8% 7445 60.8% 7445 60.8% 7448 60.8%
Garrett
2273 1570 69.1% 1589 69.9% 1615 71% 1620 71.3% 1625 71.5%
Artouste
2274 1490 65.5% 1552 68.2% 1620 71.2% 1636 71.9% 1648 72.4%
Adour
3986 3111 78.0% 3185 79.9% 3260 81.8% 3276 82.2% 3356 84.2%
R-25
3398 3270 96.2% 3277 96.4% 3285 96.7% 3288 96.8% 3288 96.8%
To sum it up…in number of components from local sources
Imported choppers and transports pre DPP, dont seem to have been negotiated for max TOT (per original agreement) /or equivalent effort hasnt gone that way in increasing the local content to its zenith..they are around the 70% level
But for Fighters:
Jaguar a/c @ 88.4%
Jaguar engine @ 84.2%
MiG-21 bis engine @ 97%
ALH @ 87%
Reaching the 90% figure for the MKI/ MRCA is reasonable
Nick_76How realistic is the 10% kit from Russia number? What are the numbers for 2006 for example and the likely numbers for 2007? The 10% sounds a little low to me but i might be wrong.
10% is the level per the original agreement- the MKI got a deep license and the level of TOT specified is 90% per the DPP. The first five production figures in the calculations come from HALs numbers. The remaining five are assumed for the 140 production run, minus a few which are already ready.
Of course its an inexact averaging. The way it will work is that the first couple of years of production will see practically 70% in terms of kits from russia, but then it will tend towards the 10%. There are four stages of production:
SKD then CKD– Phase I
Assembly from partial kit-Phase II
Indigenous engines and more local content- Phase III
Assembly from “local raw materials”– Phase IV
Thanks to the IAF compressing the production run, expect to see the numbers for Phase I and II increased somewhat, at the cost of the numbers in Phase III and IV.
But just crunch the numbers and you will see that one way or the other, to get the $ 500 Million figure, the % indigenization rises..
The numbers apart, I am not really concerned since HAL has two-three decades to indigenize the bird over the product life cycle. Currently, the Jaguars are at 88% indigenization, and the Adours at the same figures.. and the MKI incorporates more TOT per the agreement itself, and Indian industry is far better placed to absorb the tech today than it was then.
Remember, the MKI incorporates third party (non russian equipment) as well, thats different and will be indigenized as well or replaced with Indian equivalents.
So how many MKIs are on the line at present- this photo is from around six months back..or more, ..
At this point of time, that is when Phase I is just getting over (its been what, a year and a half? since the HAL assembled MKIs started turning out, the indigenization figure already stands at > 30%)..according to reports…so yup, they can shoot for the DPP standard 90% over the life cycle..
Nick_76I know you are incapable of talking sense, but who knows..
maybe Russians knows that India is not fully capable of fully indigenizing MKI thats why they have to supply most of part of kits for long time to come.
India is perfectly capable of indigenizing the MKI, but economics and time constraints on the Indian side and IPR issues on the russian side mean that there will always be some give and take in the issue. The AL-31FP for eg is being transferred totally, but as far as avionics is concerned, India will probably not seek TOT for Russian “black boxes” which run on proprietary russian sourced chips and there is little learning to be applied to other programs.
I dont think so. there prices are very reasonable.
Its not an issue of “reasonable”- its an issue of not juggling around with a customers prospective modernisation plans by hiking prices and stuff because the original plan was not well thought out. Besides, there is the issue of overdependence and the perception of the MiG series in the IAF. Useful planes but poor supply chain.
Nick_76The spare parts bussiness is it going through other companies, or the IAF is buying them directly from RSK?
RSK MiG which is unable to provide the required quantum of spares for the IAFs annual 180hrs/pilot requirement. And this is the minimum expected of qualified full ops capable pilots. Senior pilots and instructors exceed these hours by a healthy margin. As a result the IAF and HAL have started making almost all the mandatory spares inhouse. But the non flight critical but mission necessary spares- radar, avionics, propulsion- have to still come from russia since they are unique to the MiG and cant be reverse engineered w/o time and cost effort, and RSK MiGs attitude is pathetic. Also, MiG overtook tech transfer to HAL for assembly and overhaul of the RD-33 – even that was plagued with problems thanks to Klimovs issues and RSK raised its hand…
The MiG-29 support structure stinks for a high intensity AF. In fact, whether it be MiG-21 or MiG-27, RSK MiGs concept of supply chain management is pathetic. What is worse is their attitude of telling the customer the mandatory procedures and lack of interest in modifying existing design flaws, adapting the aircraft to operational requirements..
The IAF senior maintenance officers who have dealt with MiG and Rosoboronexport reps in the past call them BS artists thanks to their attitude issues. At least in the Soviet era, the IAF used to push a BOM for months ahead and have it delivered. Now RSK is unable to provide the same level of assistance and each individual manufacturer engages in price guaging. In recent years, the situation has improved thanks to Putin stabilising things and making nodal authorities…but these are no better when it comes to price gauging.
Nick_76I would use the F-22 to obliterate the S-400 with SDB and GPS guided munition.
If you attack russian S-400, it means nuclear war.
Nick_76Compound factor
1.05 1.1025 1.157625 1.21550625 1.276281563 1.340095641 1.407100423 1.477455444 1.551328216
cost of MKI
36.5 M$ 38.325 40.24125 42.2533125 44.36597813 46.58427703 48.91349088 51.35916543 53.9271237 56.62347988
% of kit 0.1 3.65 3.8325 4.024125 4.22533125 4.436597813 4.658427703 4.891349088 5.135916543 5.39271237 5.662347988
Number/ Yr 13 15 15 16 16 13 13 13 13 8
$ to russia 47.45 57.4875 60.361875 67.6053 70.985565 60.55956014 63.58753815 66.76691506 70.10526081 45.29878391
610.2082981
Crazy formatting apart…at 5% compounding…it shows how if russia supplies 10% of the kit, the compounding adds to a cool 610 million bucks over a 10 year production run.. which more or less matches the figures claimed in the article.
Nick_76Russia is certainly playing hardball. What are the cancellation terms in the contract? What damages are stipulated in the contract if one of the parties fails to honor the terms agreed upon? No speculation please…just facts.
Russia is honoring its terms. All agreements have various clauses built into them for either side to hedge against currency fluctuations, breach of contract, delivery delays, and various factors. In this case, Russia is exercising the first and “sweetening” the pill by not applying these terms on 40 fully Russian built Sukhois. However, Russia will be supplying some 10-15% of the remaining Sukhoi production in India, and wants to put a 5% cost escalation on the assemblies.
Both sides havent reneged on any written agreements, but will negotiate for their interests..the way it works is that India will offer sweeteners on some other project, and the russians will let this be.
Basically though, I think the russians overplayed their hand, the MRCA deal is not going to go their way.
Nick_76For those concerned about cockpit view…its the same as earlier, for all practical purposes.
Nick_76Any chance we can switch gears back onto what potential stores the upgraded MiG’s will carry?
We’ve mentioned several, but what about other stuff the MiG’s carry now that hasn’t been mentioned?
Shoot me a PM if you** want and I can pass on some info. I’d rather not feed “experts” who have delusions of grandeur.
**same goes for the serious types interested in the upgrade.
Nick_76The above report is stupid and the intelligence of the gent who posted it speaks for itself.
The Indian Air Force has:
MiG-21
MiG-23— Phased out
MiG-25— Phased out
MiG-27
MiG-29— maintained by IAF, now handled jointly by HAL and IAF, overhauled by HAL
Mirage 2000– maintained by IAF, overhauled by Dassault, and now HAL
Jaguar
Of these aircraft only the MiG-23 and MiG-25 were not maintained by HAL. Both are phased out.
All other aircraft are maintained by HAL and overhauled at HAL.
So saying that IAF aircraft which crash are built/maintained by HAL is idiocy.
All IAF aircraft which dont crash are also HAL.
If any IAF aircraft crashes, obviously it will have had been to HAL or will be to HAL at some time in the future.
And in IAF investigations, the Technical Defect to HE (Human Error) ratio is the same as all AF worldwide. 52 vs 48% respectively. [Public Accounts Committee, 2002]
So only half of the aircraft have attrition due to TD.
Lets break it down further.
Details provided to the committee:
The TD accident rate of HPT-32 is 0.24, whereas the TD accident rate of comparable aircraft T3A of USAF is 0.35.”
Giving an analysis of 82 TD accidents that occurred during 1991-97, the Department of DP&S inter-alia stated:
“These include, 5 accidents due to ‘TD+HE’, 24 accidents involving aircraft of Non-HAL origin and 10 accidents involving aircraft of HAL origin where failure of engine/equipment of Non-HAL origin (Engine like Viper, R-23, R-29 and slat motor body of Jaguar aircraft etc.). Excluding these there are 34 Cat-I TD accidents involving aircraft of HAL origin accounting for 18% of the total number of accidents. Out of these 34 accidents, only 3 are attributable to HAL which is 1.5% of the total accidents.”
[i]In this context, the Committee desired to know the comparative status of accidents due to technical defects in respect of aircraft manufactured/assembled by HAL and those directly imported by the Government. The Committee were informed that out of 83 accidents of fighter aircraft caused due to technical defects during 1990-2000, 40 aircraft were of HAL origin and 43 were imported. Highlighting the performance of HAL origin aircraft in evidence, the Secretary, Department of Defence Production and Supplies inter-alia stated:
“The rate of accidents on aircraft manufactured and overhauled by HAL is lower than those wholly
imported and maintained either by the manufacturer or elsewhere.”
4.2.5 To substantiate the point that aircraft of HAL origin performed better compared to imported aircraft of similar type and class, the Department of DP&S furnished the following statistics about the rate of Category-I TD accident during 1991-2000 to the sub-Committee:
“Rate of Cat-I TD accidents of MiG-27 (HAL built/overhauled) is less than 1/4th of the rate for MiG-23 (Imported/overhauled by IAF).
Rate of Cat-I TD accidents of Jaguar (HAL built/overhauled) is less than ½ the rate for MiG-29 (Imported and overhauled by IAF)
Rate of Cat-I TD accident of Kiran Jet Trainer (HAL designed and built/overhauled) is almost 1/4th the rate for Iskra trainer (Imported and overhauled by IAF).
Rate of Cat-I TD accident of the basic piston engine trainer HPT-32 (HAL designed and built/overhauled) is much lower in the IAF than accident for basic trainer T3A – Fire Fly of US Airforce.[/i]
Nick_76Quote
Except that its not really a similar no.IAF is procuring 230 nos of Su30MKI as opposed to 150 or so PAF JF-17s.
The article on the whole is excellent and calls it like it really is.
The other mistake in the article is the claim that neither PAF or the IAF has a credible air defense network.
India has 30 SAM Squadrons worth of upgraded S-125s, backed up by SA-8/OSA-AKMs and finally Igla units for last ditch defense.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Info/BMD.html
Furthermore, unlike Pak- India has a charter for replacing existing units with other ones. Some 18 Spyder units have been ordered, MSAMs are due this year, 2 Akash squadrons etc..
Nick_76Dear Martinez, first – grow the heck up. Most of us come here to just debate and inform ourselves, not to engage in whose wiener is longer, so learn to talk in a civilized manner. I really dont appreciate your unnecessary aggression.
In fact, you brought up an interesting point, but do behave reasonably.
Hehh, kinda funny reasoning….For those who do not know what the PRRV switch is used for. The FLOGGER pilot sets with this “archaic” rotary switch the operation mode of the analog weapon system computer “SUV”. The switch has been used with the whole Mig-23/27 aircraft familly. It means that pilot has to put his left hand down from the throttle and handle the rotary switch according to weapon (unguided missiles S-24, S-5, cannon, guided missiles, bombs, spec. bombs) he wants to use.
So, why they claim that the modernized Mig-27ML will feature HOTAS???!!! 😮 😀
Thats the funny thing isnt it? Has it struck you that the MiG-27 ML upgrade also has Litening functionality? That it also has new LGBs integrated on it? That the HOTAS controls could be used for those? That the IAF is planning to integrate additional RECON pods, like the Vinten Vicon series onto the MiG-27, that controls for the new EW fit could be on the grip as well?
Why do you think you must have the PRRV switch installed to be able to fire the soviet weaponry?. Already, the next generation of Migs(namely the Mig-29) have been using a digital weapon system computer, no need for similar switches in their cockpits.
The fact is that the MiG-27 ML upgrade has been conducted on a very short timeline and budget. So its entirely possible that the MC and new weapons management system incorporate a bypass switch for different weapons and systems. A similar approach was used by NIIP for their N001 upgrade for the PLAAF as well, and after all, if it aint broken, dont fix it.
In fact, I very much doubt whether the MiG-27 upgrade will fire ANY soviet PGM/ weaponry, or whether there are enough stocks of KH-25s left for the purpose. The MiG-27s PGM of choice is intended to be the LGB. Harry might have more information on this, but I doubt that Kh-25s or similar lightweight missiles are even left in the IAF inventory anymore.
Hence that switch may end up being used for unguided bombs, rockets, and the gunfire. The one Russian munition A2G the MiG-27 will definitely continue to use, is the S-xx series unguided rockets.
OTOH, the IAF has even conducted a LGB launch from a MiG-27, where the target was designated with a Searcher-II.
I think the explanation is quite simple. Despite the fact that Indian HAL assembled a large amount of Migs-27 in the past, they do have little or no knowledge about some systems installed in their Mig-27. As being said the modernized Mig-27 will retain original autopilot “SAU” and the old weapon system “SUV” as well….who knows what else. Now it seems that Indian were uncertain to replace those systems because they rejected the offer from the RSK MIG to modernize the Mig-27. As Harry said before the Indian Mig-27 upgrade is an indigenous one, the Russian assistance has been ignored or turned down.
Sorry old chap, but this is stretching it. The systems in the MiG-27 which the Indian side wont touch, ie reengineer extensively mainly refer to the engine and associated subsystems whose design data is not available to India, so they are in talks with the Russians for engine replacement and the like. Most other items, especially avionics ones have been reconfigured in India. Out of necessity, mostly- after the Soviet Union fell, spares for the MiG-27s avionics have been hard to come by.
Simple fact is that this is upgrade aims to get maximum bang for limited buck. They have upgraded the Nav-attack system, the ILS, the comms, the cooling unit, the EW suite, the range of munitions it can carry…what else is necessary!
Honestly, saying that the “Su-30MKI is no different in some ways” is another nonsense. AFAIK the Su-30MKI avionics/weapon systems package has been designed from the scratch to match customer requirements. They`ve developed an open architecture based on the MIL-STD standard where all systems(electronic blocks) including modern russian are connected to the digital bus. Who cares about some analogue gauges in the MKI cockpit, they mean absolutely nothing in this case.
That nonsense comes from your comments earlier on in this thread. If you pass a couple of statements without any explanation of what you meant or any level of detail, then expect replies assuming that you meant something else.
FYI, despite your silly condescension, your comments came across as stating that integration of weapon systems from different countries and origins was not possible, “goulash”- which in fact the MKI carries out.
Secondly, your lack of knowledge about the MKI again betrays you- the MiG-27 upgrade uses none other than the MKI architecture Mission computers, reconfigured into one core avionics computer.
But pairing the analogue Flogger weapon/flight control system with modern western computers/avionics without russian help, that needs an extra effort to get that working correctly if you ask me. Well, therefore I`m affraid if the “Indian goulash” would ever perform as expected.
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Thanks for your concern. But according to the Indian Air Force, 9 aircraft have already been upgraded and handed over to their respective unit/s.
The ASTE was also deeply involved with the program, and they have cleared the bird, so its ready.
Nick_76Of particular interest:
DRDO has developed ‘Revathi’ 3D-Surveillance radar for Corvette Class of Ships and order for two numbers has been received by BEL from Navy. DRDO has also developed SV 2000 Radar for Naval Air borne application for Naval Advance Light Helicopter (ALH) and which is also configured for Dornier Platform. DRDO and Private Sector PSUs are in the process of intensifying R&D efforts to make radars indigenously side-by-side with purchase of radars from foreign countries. DRDO has proposed the following programmes in this direction in the XI Plan such as Fire Control Radar for Combat Aircraft, Low level Transportable Radar, Medium Power Radars, 3D Tactical Control & Short Range Radars, etc. DRDO will make all efforts to involve Defence Public Sector Undertaking (DPSU)/Private Industry for design & development.
11th Plan Period — 2007-2012
So in the next five years DRDO plans to design and develop:
FCR for combat aircraft- a new project apart from the MMR?
Low Level Transportable radar– will replace the license produced units at BEL
Medium Power Radar — will replace the license produced Elta radars
3D Tac control and Short range radars– these are squarely directed at the Maitri LLQRM project.
These will round out the radar development path in India, making it practically self sufficient in radar systems.
DRDO has already covered the gamut of 2D and 3D battlefield surveillance, medium range 3D radars, naval surveillance 3D airborne radars, and 3D medium range fire control radars. Plus long range 3D AESA tracking radar for BMD.
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