MAK-35 display system for Su-35 uses two multi-processor computers connected via COTS fiber-optics databuses (1 Gb/sec throughput) running at 1.600 MOPS. For what such information is worth 🙂

I would be very surprised if they are just for display processing, that would be a pretty inefficient use of resources and would indicate that the Russians are not producing integrated MFDs with embedded processors yet. Once again, more than the raw numbers, it would be more interesting to see the # of LRUs used in the Su-35 for various avionics functions, which COTS processors these require (if they are purely based on Russian chips, thats one blow against them for an export customer seeking tech transfer and seeking independence)..
I would presume these are mission computers, with display processing modules as well.

Lastly, as a matter of interest, Harry should have more details, India recently used its local RLG INS in its ABM missile test, that was developed for the LCA program and will probably replace the imported Sagem units in IAFs combat aircraft in future blocks.

Yes. So, like, if I’m selling a car that does 125 mph, I’ll stick “over 10mph” on the advert? Get real 🙂

It might be 55 MIPS for example but that is more 486 level than Pentium 4.

That is because the MP-486 uses 486 chips and the performance is more than enough for the MKIs mission computing needs. But even those are old hat; the core avionics computer- uses multiple 486 Dx2 and Dx4 chips as well. One DX4 is tasked for mission computing, another for display processing, other chips as I/O modules, video switching units, and a Display Map Generator is in the works. The CAC is for the MiG-27 and Jaguars. If you want higher processing power, there is the PowerPC 7400 based Open Architecture computer on the LCA with multiprocessors spread out across different modules, and another PPC based Cpci OAC. But even these miss the point, the MKI has multiple processors and processing modules in different avionics- some are receiving upgrades quite frequently eg locally designed high end computing boards built on ADSP chips, each board to the tune of 8 Gigaflops and above. The latest DRDO products already use baseboards having multiple 133MHz PowerPC Processors.
But all this comes after need and functionality, and of course cost.
Simply put, raw MIPS/MFLOPS numbers are misleading unless discussing computationally heavy systems, such as radars and ESM systems. Even here, we can expect the MKI MLU to make use of the Indian work on the MMRs hardware, the current RDP for instance hails from the first block of the MMR program, and each can track 8 targets, apart from controlling the Bars, but the MMRs new advanced signal and data processor combines both radar and data processing, relying on multiprocessing boards using the latest ADSP chips (blackfin was mentioned on BR). So thats another possibility for the growth path.

Pics from AeroIndia

http://media.bharat-rakshak.com/aero/main.php

AEW Specs
http://media.bharat-rakshak.com/aero/main.php?g2_itemId=6178

Some stuff from BR posted by visitors to AI who snooped around

DRDO BHARANI Low level LIGHTWEIGHT RADAR

Meant against low level strikers using terrain following tactics

3D RADAR
40KM range (radar horizon) against 2 sq mtr RCS
100 Target TWS
Integrated IFF

IAF has ordered 20, IA evaluating it

DRDO MMR

All hardware ready, current Indian TWT, 6.5 KW (peak), 10% duty cycle, design allows for it to be upgraded substantially
120 Km against small fighter, design specs
Air to air, all PRFs validated, TWS 10 targets proven, look up, look down modes proven
Currently working on STT
Software modules thereafter to be added for SAR, A2G, ISAR
To be featured on LSP 3
4-5 elta 2032 radars for speeding up weaponization while all modes are worked out on MMR (PV-1,2,3 and LSP-1,2 will receive them pro’lly)

HADF Pod
1 degree DF accuracy, tested on MKI, pod can be carried in supersonic speeds, works with onboard RWR

EW
New Tarang RWR version revealed, R118 designation, 200 + threat signatures of various radars uploaded, built with latest gen processors, earlier 4 modules + RF antenna in Tarang 1 reduced to 1 module + RF antenna in Tarang 2

DRDO reveals new DRFM based jammer, can conduct deception, single frequency and barrage jamming

DRDO AWACS
Aircraft will have IFR for extended range
Has S Band AESA, 300 Km range against small fighter target in extended mode
Variety of AESA modules being manufactured inhouse at BEL, India and Astra, India, across various bands

Mach 5 follow on to Brahmos in the works, will use ramjets not scramjet

I dont know about the exact version number, for I did not ask about it. What i did get confirmed was that the “recently sold” Master series radar was used with the recent Indian ABM test. It was also explicitly mentioned to me that its performance was “much better” than Green Pines in posession with India. I did not ask about tech transfer, source codes etc..

Ok, if they get TOT / SC access, then its even better. The desi LRTR and Master A both work in conjunction. The latter is used to confirm the LRTR data and id the target (check the DN interview), and will also be used for the AAD (S-300V Class missile, 100 km slant range, upto 30 Km altitude).

Infact several months back there were news articles on the proposed sale of Thales master series radars for use with India’s indigenous ABM systems.

Didnt read a single one.

Here is one oldie >> http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=309964

This is about the Herakles. Unlikely to go through, what with MFSTAR.

Rakall post from BR

1. Each time 120deg coverage. A/c turns around for 120deg from other side.1280 modules switched over from one side to the other as required with a switching mech
2. 360deg coverage possible, but restricted only by payload constraints – IAF asked for a lot of systems. Including all that meant only this much could be put into arrays. If 360deg coverage required – we can put some antennas at front and back.
3. 65*8*160 watt peak power, 0.07*peakpower = AvgPower (7% duty cycle) 😎

4. Data transfer to 40a/c @ 64kbps VHF/UHF 300km range. LOS. Only info (target coords, speeds etc in a pre-set format), no pictures.
5. Satcom to ground station – no range limitation. No LOS limitations.
6. Array – S band, IFF – L band (250w amplifier) 500km range for IFF at sides(250km range front & back)
7. 5hrs endurance w/o IFR
8. Cooling by natural convection
9. AA, A2G, A2C modes exist. Inter-leaving doesn’t exist. If end user asks – can be done. Needs a simple switching mechanism.
10. 5 operator consoles.. toilets are there

CABS AEW&C project has 10 senior IAF officers working with the CABS/LRDE group to reduce the communicatio/expectation gap between the development agency & enduser.

Aditya post from BR

I talked with him for quite a while too, he said

– 120° on either side
– 300 km range against missile-sized targets
– Shorter ranged radar in the nose.
– IFF fitted effective up to 500 kms

Any reason why they decided not to swarm the missiles?

Think about it..and you’ll get the answer..! Not kidding or putting you down..

Seems odd that India would include the Gripen in the MMRCA Contest. When the LCA uses the same engine (i.e. GE F404) and is very similar in size???:rolleyes:

Scooter, irrespective of how many times one repeats the facts to you, you will choose to ignore it and repeat the same litany over and over and over again, SIgh! The Gripen was included in the M-MRCA to increase competition, for which weight criterion were relaxed. It was a pragmatic decision, otherwise there would only be two contenders, MiG and Dassault, with little competition in terms of tech access or pricing..

Well the military and government doesn’t (rightfully so) share the same optimism about Tejas development status as some internet users.

Having spoken to umpteen IAF pilots including test crew flying the Tejas, I can state that their views are quite positive not withstanding the media campaign. Dont misattribute your personal opinion to the IAF- they have put their money and personnel into the program. You have no stake in the program to speak on their behalf and claim an insight into what they think.

With Gripen the Indian nation also receive technological cooperation for risk reduction on domestic projects that will take the industry faster further on rather as opposed to working alone or using israeli avionics. There has been contacts between India and Saab for many many years and there was a plan to work together on a LCA jet. LCA/Tejas and Gripen started out about the same time. That might happen still as Saab is expanding in India.

Sorry, but you are smoking something potent if you think that the Gripen has a chance in the MRCA contest. Some brutally candid facts for the Gripen fanboys regarding the MRCA-

-Sweden has very little influence viz the Indian procurement process, compared to all the other players. The IAF is also a bit p!ssed over the Erieye sale.
-The amount of US content in the Gripen makes it sanctionable
-The Aircraft is a light fighter, it simply isnt in the class of the heavyweights and is but barely competitive against the medium weight MiG-35 which is non sanctionable, and comes with a much deeper TOT as well

The Gripen is a nice bird, and the LCA team has visited its facilities in Sweden, there have been meetings over the years, but a combination of geopolitics, the aircrafts role (remember it started as M-MRCA) and the issue of US content, all mitigate against the Gripen.

As for the F414, it shouldn’t be too hard but there might be a need to open up the inlets a bit. The Gripen New Generation jet is getting a F414 with > 22,000lbs of thrust, it’s being built as a demonstrator and offered for export to first of all Norway and Denmark.

Again, a US made engine..and will SAAB pay for a Euro engine on its own, I think not!