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  • in reply to: G-FURY Model #1404357
    Hatton
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    Hi, are you referring to me. Think you might be. I finished the model, it wasn’t a very grand affair, only a balsa model. It currently hanging from the roof of my old house from when I was at uni. I think I would have destroyed it had I tried to move it.

    regards, steve.

    in reply to: DEAR MR/MRS COSFORD ££££££s! #1404365
    Hatton
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    Must every thread descend into a “I know more than you” exercise?

    C’mon chaps, we can do better than this 🙂

    in reply to: XS904 and XR728 updates #1405585
    Hatton
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    Hi,

    thanks for the update on the team. Any pictures of the progress on the QRA shed? I dont think i have seen a picture of one.

    in reply to: P-51D-5-NA G-MRLL #1406693
    Hatton
    Participant

    As Y11F said, what history does your P51 have?
    There are those who do and those who talk.

    missing the point really, not everyone is able to buy and restore a mustang are they?

    in reply to: 633/Mosquito Squadron Remake… (Merged – twice) #1410302
    Hatton
    Participant

    quite astonishing. I think something that really adds to the realism is the realistic camera effect, watch the jerky zoom and see the camera shake. Amazing.

    in reply to: BBMF Display question #1412091
    Hatton
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    thanks chaps, i positioned myself up the tower at the castle but alas the crew took her the direct route over waddington way so i missed out. Still, nice to see her albeit very small through a 300mm lens!

    better luck next time hopefully

    in reply to: BBMF Display question #1413122
    Hatton
    Participant

    cheers for info, what do you think the chance are that the will route over the cathedral at any point tomorrow?

    determined to one day get that shot one day.

    thanks, steve

    in reply to: Wellington HE226 on Conistone Moor #1413716
    Hatton
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    Hi everyone – just retnd from 3 weeks in france 🙂 & catching up – the website that the original info was taken from was mine & I am the author of the page mentioned – in this area there are still many such “High Ground Wreck” sites with varying amounts of wreckage left. HE226 has to my knowledge been subject to two licenced excavations by different groups and many parts have been recovered and preserved. I have visited the site and attended one of the excavations, but have no artefacts from it. It is an unusual site in that the the level of destruction during the crash of the aircraft components is quite shocking – the ground here has virtually no top soil & is a solid limestone pavement a few centimeters down. So although there does appear to be a substantial amount of wreckage, what is left is very badly shattered.

    A memorial at each site would be nice and I totally agree with the final sentiment above – however this would be very costly / time consuming for an individual or small group, so I feel that the remaining wreckage may be seen as a memorial + the virtual memorials in the form of the web pages I create – which has obviously worked in this case, bringing this site and the fate of these airmen to peoples attention.

    Sadly I feel I cannot publish exact locations on my site and only give out such information by request (though I obviously included enough to allow this one to be located with a little detective map work) as not everyone is as responcible or respectful as the original poster of this thread. I have seen parts taken illegally fron wrecksites featured on my website appear on ebay & have been involved with attempts to persuade ebay to stop listing these items – however many parts offered for sale are actually from legally excavated sites and offered by well known aviation enthusiasts – I personally feel this is morally wrong, but other people obviously have other opinions / priorities 🙁

    Nick, thanks for providing the website, I aim to visit somemore of the sites next time i return to Yorkshire. I may contact you for specific locations if this is ok? Feel free top use any of these images for your site if you wish.

    best regards, Steve

    in reply to: Wellington HE226 on Conistone Moor #1419636
    Hatton
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    I could understand it if it were in steep hilly bush country where no-one could see it or get to it (like a few NZ wrecks), but when people can go online and get directions and then stroll along for a visit, hmmm. (No offence intended Steve, not having a dig at you)

    non taken, its interesting though that the wreckage left where it is had a much more profound effect on me than if i’d seen it at a museum. It isn’t quite a quick stroll to find but its not out of the reach of any occasional hill walker. I do see your point about the macarbe element of it all.

    in reply to: Wellington HE226 on Conistone Moor #1419640
    Hatton
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    Steve.

    Firstly, I take it the crew’s remains are no longer there. Less than ten days before wars end as well.

    I presume they are no longer there, I have no evidence to suggest either way though.

    If you’re worried about theft from the site perhaps it wasn’t such a good idea to highlight the location? Not criticising, just a thought.

    The site is well known locally and thanks to the net nationally. It could be found by anyone with a little determination. Maybe I say this with a little naivety but on a forum like this I would hope to be able to share this information with the confidence that it will be used in a positive way.

    best regards, Steve

    in reply to: Wellington HE226 on Conistone Moor #1421407
    Hatton
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    it is sad that there seems to be no memorial to this crew there, and that the ‘grave robber’ is allowed to remove parts of the aircraft without getting prosecuted, wouldn’t it be better the remains of the wellington should be removed and placed in a museum rather than leave them to the vultures!!!, if this is done i will help with this venture if i can, i have a four wheel drive that could be used if need be., also what would it take to have a memorial there?, would it need to go through the RAF and local authority?.

    Greg

    I would imagine that the permission would be needed from the RAF and the landowners whose land you would have to cross to reach it. You could get there by 4×4 and walk the last few yards.

    I’m not sure whether I would advocate placing it in a museum, the wreckage where it is now has a certian power that would perhaps be lost in a museum. A memorial and footpath (there isn’t either at present) would be nice but might lead to widespread theft of items.

    in reply to: Wellington HE226 on Conistone Moor #1421549
    Hatton
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    The answer, Hatton, is probably ‘none’, for a number of reasons:

    They’re usually pre-occupied with the job of crewing the aircraft (with all that entails, navigation, weather monitoring, timings etc), and unless they are looking for a particular feature of which they have knowledge (in this case aircraft wreckage), will pass over the sight none the wiser.

    I presume that there were thousands of similar wrecks on high ground, the same high ground which is flown over by todays crews. Particularly for those aircrew operating at low level, they most certainly will be ‘heads out’ to avoid the ground, obstuctions, and looking for the next nav feature. They will acutally probably come close to dozens of crash sites on one sortie alone.

    However, if they were to be passed a six figure OS grid reference, they may be up to the challenge (particularly helicopter crews, who have the luxury of coming to a halt)) of finding the wreckage as a turning/drop off/pick up point, and your post could be used as a point of interest in the crew brief.

    Hope this is of interest, and thanks for the thread.

    thanks for the replies, was gettign worried that on a historic aviation forum that this wasn’t of any interest.

    I hope my comments about current crews not realising what lies on the moors below was not taken as a critisism. I just find it interesting that history and events lies unknown to so many.

    in reply to: Wellington HE226 on Conistone Moor #1421927
    Hatton
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    nobody interested or have anything to add?

    best regards, steve

    in reply to: Airspace #1425335
    Hatton
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    I’m just glad it’s being built.

    me too, and we have yet to hear an alternative way of getting important aicraft undercover that won’t fit in a Belfast hangar (or other authentic period hangar). If you want the large aircraft undercover and safe then there is no way the airfield can be kept anywhere near like authentic condition. The fact that the place is strewn with vending machines, a playground (still there?) , metal barriers and aircraft that never even served at Duxford doesn’t seem to bother the purists.

    I m glad it is the way it is, coke machines, AAM and all. All part of Duxford being what it is….Europes premier aviation museum.

    best regards, steve

    in reply to: Airspace #1425345
    Hatton
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    Out of interest, just how much does everyone think a building like this should cost? (inc everything, labour, exhibitions, conservation of aircraft to go inside, hanging materials and expertise, new shop? etc etc)

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