I thought that practice was illegal in the states, as well. I assure you, none of the bigboys do that.
UPS leases them during peak seasons (mainly X-mas), but they are not a mainstay in their fleet.
QF’s 744’s were doing just fine on the routes they already had, with slight payload restrictions only on the westbound (which I was unaware of until the tarmac tour guide informed us). The 744ER sacrifices hold space for an extra fuel tank. So theoretically, that space that now holds fuel, wasn’t usuable for cargo with the restrictions to begin with. NZ and UA fly the same routes and they still use the regular 744’s. I fly them all the time. This is all speculation on my part, perhaps Skycruiser can shed some light on the situation. The LAX-MEL flight is a little more than 7,900 statute miles. The LAX-SYD flight is 7,487 miles. With headwinds, what are the restrictions with a typical pax load of around 380 on those routes with a regular 744? Also, how much more effective is the 744ER on those 2 routes without restrictions?
Tom Bradley was indeed Black. I can’t confirm that he was the first Black mayor, but I’m pretty sure that is the case.
It’s not the seatbelt, Mongu. Your abdominal muscles would be the ones used, to force your torso back into the seat, if it tilting forward due to the gravity going that way.
Tom Bradley was the Mayor of L.A. from the late 70’s (I think?) until the early to mid 90’s. The Bradley terminal was completed just in time for the Summer Olympics in ’84.
According to the specs, it is supposed to have greater range than a 744, but I’m not absolutely certain about this.
You are correct, Mongu, as these were also the only 2 passenger airlines in the U.S. to order the -400’s. The ‘original’ 747 giants, PA and TW, are but a memory and CO retired their few ‘classics’ about 5 years ago.
I don’t know, ask BigRed. He used to be a rampworker at said terminal for said airline.
Southwest has a number of backward facing seats in their 737 classics (not sure if the NG’s do or not). A friend of mine who flew Southwest and was ‘forced’ to sit in one of the backward facing seats, found it to be extremely uncomfortable on the takeoff, as he had to force himself back into the seat to combat the tendency to lean forward. He had some abdominal pains afterwards from having to do this.
I thought Braniff operated into the late 80’s/early 90’s? Was it ‘another’ Braniff, perhaps?
All these “Swiss” Air’s are going out of business, then starting up, then going out of business. This is starting to get confusing, who was who, and who is who now.
Originally posted by mixtec
It doesnt carry that much more passangers than the 747 yet its very much larger and heavier.
Actually, it should carry considerablly more pax than a 744, in a typical 3 class layout. Sure, the 744 can carry about 560 pax, in a high density configuration, a la JAL and ANA. The A380 is supposed to carry that number in a typical 3-class layout with regular seat pitches. A 744 in a typical 3-class layout seats around 370-400 pax.
Originally posted by steve rowell
A very rare site, American 747-123 at Gatwck 82
Indeed a ‘rare’ sight nowadays, but surely not between 1970 and about 1988ish. I’m not sure exactly the year AA ceased 747 service, nor do I know why. I’m going to take a guess, and assume it had something to do with the deal they had with McDonnel Douglas at the time they ordered the MD-11. Delta was another carrier who operated the 747 early on, but they got rid of theirs even sooner than AA got rid of theirs.
I know what you’re talking about, Mindoh, I’ve seen it as well. It just folds down from one of the flap canoes. I’m not sure what it is, but I’m sure it is a landing light like some of these other gentlemen made reference to.