RE: Your Favorite Jet Airliner
The 707 is currently in service with somebody?
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RE: I Give Up !!!
Nobody is upset here people, at least I’m not. This is a forum, we express our opinions, if things get a little ‘fired up’ (no pun intended), once in a while, so be it. It’s rather rare that it happens anyhow. I agree that a fire in an aircraft high above the earth is a bad thing. Valujet, which was an up-and-coming low-fare airline in the U.S., and the original launch customer of the MD-95/B717, had one of their DC9’s go down over the everglades in ’96. Turns out there was something in the cargo hold that caused the cabin to catch fire. Long story short, Valujet was done after that, bad publicity, FAA sanctions, ballgame. However, I’m just going to reiterate my 2 main points from the earlier post, and I’ll be done with this. 1) In full agreeance with Mongu, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT, that of all accidents that have happened in aviation history, has there been one DIRECTLY CAUSED by a smoker in the cabin doing so legally or illegally. 2) If somebody is going to smoke in the cabin, legally or illegally, it’s going to happen, regardless of whether one magazine decides to print a ‘how to’ article, showing ways of getting away with it. It’s not going to encourage more people to do it, that have done it already. For the record, gentlemen, Maxim has a ‘how to’ article every issue, most of them are pretty humorous, none to be taken seriously. One in fact was, “How to overtake terrorists that have overtaken your flight.” I read that article, me being an aviation fan, thought it was pretty funny. Now, had they printed an aritcle saying, “How to HIGHJACK an airplane,” I agree that would have been COMPLETELY out of line, and extremely unaesthetic. Was this smoking article in the same ballgame, some of you may think so, I think not. I think it should be taken with a grain of salt. As Ben Affleck’s character once said in ‘Boiler Room,’ That’s it, I’m done!
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RE: Concorde in trouble again!
Bhoy, you’re right about there being no pax, however I believe it was an A340-200, not a -600. As far as AKL-LHR goes Wombat, AirNewZealand uses LAX as a stop on their service, not BKK or SIN like everybody else does, because not only do they have a mini-hub there, but it’s much shorter. Flying eastbound, AKL-LAX is roughly 11 hours, LAX-LHR 9.5-10 hours. add about 1 hour to each of those segments on the westbound sectors. Still a long journey nonetheless, flying from anywhere in the South Pacific to Europe. I’ve heard stories about how it ‘used’ to be in the 60’s flying on 707’s. We’re talking about 3-6 stops, depending on the airline.
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RE: I Give Up !!!
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-07-02 AT 01:45Â AM (GMT)]Softlad, before you jump all over my back like you did Mongu’s, let’s look at history here. How many years was smoking ‘legal’ before every airline in the world (except Olympic, I believe) banned it completely. Um, I’d say since airlines were invented? Not sure exactly how many years that is, but it’s a fairly long time. I’ve read books about aviation disasters throughout the years, and I can’t recall one being due to somebody smoking onboard. For the record, I’m not a smoker, so I’m not advocating them legalizing it again. As far as Maxim goes, the fact that you overreacted like you did about that article, means you have absolutely no business even looking at the cover of that magazine, let alone actually purchasing one. Stick to aviation ones, please. Maxim has many articles of that nature. Do you have to take them ALL seriously? Of course not. I remember about 6 years ago reading an article in there that was titled, “How to fly a 767.” Are you kidding me? Yeah, I’m sure every person that read that article, went out and tried to buy, perhaps a used jumbo (a new one being too expensive), towed it to their local airport, and tried to fly the thing just like the article instructed. I’m sure the CAA and the FAA had a fit after that one, as well.
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RE: SIA makes wrong turn at Taipei AGAIN !!
Last time I checked, building a new airport isn’t cheap. Just because a few pilots made wrong turns, doesn’t warrant throwing out a few hundred million to build a new airport.
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RE: Im pleased with myself
If the Devil broke his leg, and some airline allowed me to fly jumpseat, it would be such a bad experience, I’d probably hate them too.
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RE: Concorde in trouble again!
LHR-JFK is actually only 3452 miles one way. Shorter than some people may think. Bhoy, you might have been thinking along the lines of LHR-LAX which is 5456 one way.
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RE: some pics of John Travolta’s 707
When is he in Singapore and London? Those are my next 2 stops.
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RE: Concorde in trouble again!
160,000 eh? Not bad. Had United been affiliated with either BA or AF, I could have pulled that off, as I had over 170,000 and 190,000 miles at 2 different times in the last year. As far as BA making a profit from them, it’s understandable. However, The manufacturers lost their asses consiering, they only made like 16 including the prototypes. There was an article in Airways about 6 or 7 years ago listing the 10 biggest busts of aviation history, and the Concorde was in there for the very reason I stated above, along with the Comet and a few others that I don’t remember.
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RE: Pic of the day
I’m a big ANZ fan! Great pic.
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RE: Future of 3 engined commercial liners
It’s no rumor gentleman, Delta has been taking Delivery of 777’s and 767-400ER’s for a few years now. In fact, they were the launch customer, along with Continental (probably the only 2 customers to date!) for the 764. They already have a sizeable fleet of both, I would imagine, however they still operate the MD11’s, and the fact that they have repainted a few of them in their new scheme, I would think they won’t get phased out entirely anytime soon. The tristars never saw the intermediate scheme, let alone the new scheme.
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RE: Concorde in trouble again!
That’s the thing though, ‘the people that can afford it,’ which is a very very very small minority. The rest of us can only hope to redeem frequent flyer mileage to ride on one of those. And those of us that don’t accrue mileage on OneWorld, have no chance. I have about 500 miles, I think, flown on AA. I have quite a ways to go.
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RE: A380 Assembly Facility In TOU Inaugurated By French President
Andrew, the largest building in the world, volume-wise, is indeed the Boeing factory in Everett, Washington. The 747, 767, and 777 final assembly lines are there, only. Not the narrowbody 737 and 757 as you mentioned. Their final assembly takes place just down the road, in Renton, Washington. As far as, whether this new Airbus building will be bigger than the one in Everett, that’s a good question. If it will only be used for the A380, I’d almost have to say no, because the Everett factory is home to 3 widebodies. If they move the A340/A330 final assemblies to that one also, then perhaps. However, is there any indication that it will happen? It doesn’t seem so from this particular news clip.
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RE: Model Aircraft
Both Wooster and LongProsper/flighminiatures make the GoFly 737. I suggest the LongProsper as it is better quality. If you want any plastic or metal model, this site generally has them, of all types:
http://www.airplanesuperstore.com
You can also get direct from the Longprosper/flightminiatures website:
http://www.flightminiatures.com
The first place is based in Washington’s Dulles airport (IAD). If any of you are in Washington saying hi to George Bush, or something, you should check it out.
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P.S. No, I’m not getting paid for any of these advertisements. 😉 Just trying to help out a fellow collector.
RE: Pic of the day.
LOL @ Ryanair! Did this post follow immediately after the previous one in regards to Ryanair?
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