Brilliant work Sandy, wish an airline like SunJET existed 🙂
They did, a few years ago. Their colours weren’t as nice as this, however. Nice job Sandy, but where are the P&W JT-9D’s?!
On a lighter note, is the SP capable of flying GLA-HNL non-stop?
Brilliant work Sandy, wish an airline like SunJET existed 🙂
They did, a few years ago. Their colours weren’t as nice as this, however. Nice job Sandy, but where are the P&W JT-9D’s?!
On a lighter note, is the SP capable of flying GLA-HNL non-stop?
Is a non-stop between Mumbai and West-Coast possible??
I doubt it, but don’t quote me on it. I can’t believe EWR-DEL is only 7,300 miles. If this was reachable, I can’t believe no other airline, in particular Air India, has tried this before, especially since they use London as a stop on their run to JFK.
Is a non-stop between Mumbai and West-Coast possible??
I doubt it, but don’t quote me on it. I can’t believe EWR-DEL is only 7,300 miles. If this was reachable, I can’t believe no other airline, in particular Air India, has tried this before, especially since they use London as a stop on their run to JFK.
agreed :D!
Thank you sir!!! 🙂
agreed :D!
Thank you sir!!! 🙂
GD, storming the ****-pit is wrong – clearly.
However, my view isn’t just about the passengers reactions, it is based on why they reacted like that. If you believe you are going to die and believe your actions will save you and those of 400 others, then surely storming the ****-pit is a justified response – if extreme.
This isn’t just about the crime as it were, but the motive for it and when you put the rationale to the scene, then I think what the passengers did was plausible. Its not as if the passengers have killed anyone or endangered anyone, they actively believed they were helping and were saving lives – surely this must count for something.
Pembo, I respect your opinion and everything you say makes sense.
The problem I have more than anything is when passengers overreact to a situation that doesn’t warrant doing so. Now, this particular situation with fuel being discharged from the wing, perhaps that might warrant an overreaction, PERHAPS. And understanbly so, as you mentioned, if a person feers his/her life in in danger, than it is justifiable. However, in that event, it does prevent the crew from doing their job effectively.
I have witnessed two situations where a passenger or passengers overreacted, and flight were delayed, even though there was no immediate danger.
Situation 1 was on a UA flight from MEL to SYD where the wind had caused the fan in one of the engines to rotate in the wrong direction and get stuck. When the pilots attempted to start the engines, said engine would not start. The pilot explained the situation and fully explained the complicated process that would alleviate the problem. This process entailed a mechanic cliimbing into said engine, and simply giving the fan a nudge in the right direction thereby making it “unstuck,” climbing down and off we go. Needless to say, one or more pax freaked out and demanded to be let off this plane, as they deemed said plane unflyable. Well, in the process of letting the passengers off the plane, one of them forgot one of their carry on items onboard. So what happens next? An entire TSA crew came onboard with metal detectors and scanned the entire plane to make sure no dangerous items were left onboard. Given size of the aircraft (747-400), this was by no means a quick task. So we finally departed for the short 45 minute hop to SYD after a 2 hour delay that was completely unnecessary. Why? because a few passengers decided to freak out and they should not have. Therefore, their flying privileges should be revoked and if they wish to travel between Melbourne and Sydney in the future, they should make the 7-10 hour drive.
GD, storming the ****-pit is wrong – clearly.
However, my view isn’t just about the passengers reactions, it is based on why they reacted like that. If you believe you are going to die and believe your actions will save you and those of 400 others, then surely storming the ****-pit is a justified response – if extreme.
This isn’t just about the crime as it were, but the motive for it and when you put the rationale to the scene, then I think what the passengers did was plausible. Its not as if the passengers have killed anyone or endangered anyone, they actively believed they were helping and were saving lives – surely this must count for something.
Pembo, I respect your opinion and everything you say makes sense.
The problem I have more than anything is when passengers overreact to a situation that doesn’t warrant doing so. Now, this particular situation with fuel being discharged from the wing, perhaps that might warrant an overreaction, PERHAPS. And understanbly so, as you mentioned, if a person feers his/her life in in danger, than it is justifiable. However, in that event, it does prevent the crew from doing their job effectively.
I have witnessed two situations where a passenger or passengers overreacted, and flight were delayed, even though there was no immediate danger.
Situation 1 was on a UA flight from MEL to SYD where the wind had caused the fan in one of the engines to rotate in the wrong direction and get stuck. When the pilots attempted to start the engines, said engine would not start. The pilot explained the situation and fully explained the complicated process that would alleviate the problem. This process entailed a mechanic cliimbing into said engine, and simply giving the fan a nudge in the right direction thereby making it “unstuck,” climbing down and off we go. Needless to say, one or more pax freaked out and demanded to be let off this plane, as they deemed said plane unflyable. Well, in the process of letting the passengers off the plane, one of them forgot one of their carry on items onboard. So what happens next? An entire TSA crew came onboard with metal detectors and scanned the entire plane to make sure no dangerous items were left onboard. Given size of the aircraft (747-400), this was by no means a quick task. So we finally departed for the short 45 minute hop to SYD after a 2 hour delay that was completely unnecessary. Why? because a few passengers decided to freak out and they should not have. Therefore, their flying privileges should be revoked and if they wish to travel between Melbourne and Sydney in the future, they should make the 7-10 hour drive.
Liverpool played well. 2 stunning strikes. Is Chelsea going to take care of business today?
Back to aviation, Is Croatia joining Star?
Liverpool played well. 2 stunning strikes. Is Chelsea going to take care of business today?
Back to aviation, Is Croatia joining Star?
I’m home again now, but because my boss is based in Orange County, I suspect I’ll be back again fairly soon.
ANdy
Let me know when you’re in town again. I’ll buy you a beer (or 2 or 3) and we can do some spotting, if your schedule is condusive to doing so.
I’m home again now, but because my boss is based in Orange County, I suspect I’ll be back again fairly soon.
ANdy
Let me know when you’re in town again. I’ll buy you a beer (or 2 or 3) and we can do some spotting, if your schedule is condusive to doing so.
I read the JetAirways thread, and I surely do not agree with the actions of their pilot. Passengers running around all over the place, however, and threatening to storm the cockpit? That’s far from rubbish in any event. That is inexcusable. The only exception for someone to leave their seat while the plane were taxiing, would be for someone to prevent some maniac from storming the cockpit, in my opinion. Flying is a privilege, not a right.
I read the JetAirways thread, and I surely do not agree with the actions of their pilot. Passengers running around all over the place, however, and threatening to storm the cockpit? That’s far from rubbish in any event. That is inexcusable. The only exception for someone to leave their seat while the plane were taxiing, would be for someone to prevent some maniac from storming the cockpit, in my opinion. Flying is a privilege, not a right.
Skymonster, how long are you in Southern California for?