Internal bay could go aft of cockpit in an exagerrated hunchback like YF 23 or side bays in intakes. Forebody would be stretched like finally Yf 23 production proposal to fit missiles.
Tails canted out at around a 45 degree angle. Northrop YF 23, Tacit Clue and F117 have them. Saves weight since instead of horizontal and verticle tails you have just one set doing both functions.
Good info on Thap: http://members.macconnect.com/users/q/quellish/TR3/thap.GIF
I think your right SOC, TR 3 might very well be Tier 3.
Has anyone considered that Pak Fa won’t be a derivative of the Berkut? The Russians (can’t remember where) themselves have said Berkut’s composite construction is it’s most useful feature… If one considers the F/A 22 to be a stealthed F15 (consider the general configuration with fuselage canted to form a diamond and intakes canted) in concept, why wouldn’t Sukhoi build a stealthed Flanker, ie something akin to the YF 23? The Butterfly tails in particular reduce weight, directional stability being handled by thrust vectoring (not on YF 23). Opinions?
Its a well known fact that if you wish to spin something, place it a category considered absurd, e.g Roswell…. Given that alot of the stealth technology of the B2 was largely verified by the F117 and especially Tacit Blue, you have to ask yourself where all that R&D went? Charging air particles amongst other things can lead to drag reduction by controlling airflow and boundary layer. Likewise plasma (ionised gas) can result in drag reduction and even rcs reduction in theory. The US navy even has an experimental phased array utilising plasma to shield the antennae when not in use. What I’m saying is RAS and Ram, though expensive to develop are actually easier to implement on a large airframe than a small one (especially Ram to defeat LF radar). Thus perhaps R&D was not used up validating stealth, it is called the Advance Technology Bomber… Alternatively, looking at the way the F/A 22 has burned money in development, perhaps were giving the USAF too much credit. We expect that because the B2 costs so much it must have all these advanced features, forgetting just how expensive stealth, even fourth generation like Raptor can be to develop…
I think Distiller means in war you take the battle to your enemy for instance the Maritime Strategy of the Navy in the 80s where they would send carriers into the Barents to force a confrontation, or the Decisive Battle, the Imperial Japanese Navy wanted in the Pacific war. For the U.S Global Strike Concept to work you need to achieve air dominance, ie take out your opponents ability to contest airspace. The U.S did this fantastically in the Gulf War. The F/A 22 will not announcce itself to be destroyed but the U.S will make its presence known in the first hours of a war from all the flaming datums; enemy jets shot down. Announcing yourself is really incidental to achieving Air Supremacy which I think is the real argument behind announcing yourself. Announcing yourself would be better rephrased as taking the offensive…
At the end of the day, politics play a role. Remember Korea’s FX competition? Looking at this deal is alot like asking where India wants to ally itself politically in the next twenty years or so… As such Mig 29 is in a strong position, so is Rafale. Typhoon looks weak in this light. Looking at fleet commonality, Mig 29 should win but IAF traditionally don’t see diversity as a logistics problem. My moneys on Rafale but maybe not 125, if only for the technology transfer plus the ability to deploy off indigenous carrier later on. Plus the French will probably offer a very discounted price…
The probability any nation can field much less afford such systems is low I agree. The argument I’m making is stealth jets use RWRs / ESMs to minimise their exposure to sam radars. If they don’t know they are being painted then a sam system vs F/A 22 engagement becomes alot like an F/A 22 vs an F/A 22. Both will probably fly past each other if they can’t lock each other up. What this means is probably the F/A 22 just bombs its target anyway but it raises the probability that an F/A 22 could fly into the acquisition range of sam systems without even knowing it. Likewise, how will U.S roll back an IADs if it cannot really easily see it. Add movement and the U.S have real problems…
I think the F/A 22 was designed with this threat in mind given the very elaborate Sanders ESM system and computing power aboard the F/A 22. LPI requires spread spectrum transmission and power management. The U.S pioneered this with the MSIP upgrade on the F15C. To detect LPI you need wide band receivers plus immense computing power to see patterns in seemingly innocuous transmissions. THe F/A 22 may be more important in protecting other stealth assets than we realize…
Forgot to add the SR 71 replacement may already exist as THAPP, reportedly this Northrop spanloader escorted F117s during Desert Storm providing BDA. Supposedly looks a little like the Horten flying wing, GD Cheeky Pete ATF proposal (led to A12). If true it would appear that all aspect stealth has resulted in a new operational regime for aerial reconnaisance; slow high altitude surveillance reliant on stealth rather than extreme speed, first generation stealth.
I believe “Aurora” if it exists utilises PDWE or pulse detonation wave engines. They work a little like exploding fuel in a tube with one end opened, the other closed. Apparently fuel is released in the tube, exploding out the back like a rocket. To get new airflow, the engine pauses a few milliseconds to let air re-enter the tube, the process then repeating. Supposedly responsible for donut contrails observed in mid 90s over the U.S.