http://www.wallsforpc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Rafale-fighter-jet-aircraft.jpg
there is something wrong with this picture :very_drunk:
Not if their comms are switched off/down. Exactly what happened over southern England a month or so ago. Typhoon(s) tasked to intercept went supersonic in order to get to the non-communicating aircraft fast. Why not use F-4? UK retired them many years ago and replaced them with MRCA.
True. Com issues are the main cause of civilian aircrafts interception.
BTW, max speed is only one parameter among others. Max Accelleration and Climb rate are very important.
^ and ^^ Thank you for clearing up things. So it was not F4 but F3O-4T.
Lets see if it is F3O-4T or F3-R standard. As I read, if India gets F3-R then it will be mostly western weapons package otherwise local. As F3-R is more about integrating more weapons with better feedback management.
These question were related to Indian deal …
India will get its own specific standard which will probably based on the F3-R (IMHO)
I guess F3-R is in the development stage, as contract was signed in Jan, 2014 and will be production ready only in 2018. And F4 is planned in 2030.
I am sorry but I am bit confused with different standard, so which version had ASEA (released in 2013).
Any guess
Rafale F3O-4T (Rafale F3 of the 4th production tranche)
http://rafalenews.blogspot.fr/2011/06/rafale-f3-04t-and-behong.html
little up as several French media report a possible Qatar order for 24 Rafale soon.
How soon ? well, nobody knows :sleeping:
http://www.europe1.fr/economie/le-qatar-sur-le-point-d-acheter-24-rafale-2297695
Uh no.
Russian forums (of any serious quality, specifically military themed ones) have for the most part laughed at this imagery.I do love to see Westerns who don’t read Russian talk as if they are authorities on what Russians do and don’t believe.
Well I would assume that the vast majority of Russian people get information from the Russian Tv rather than from specialized Russian military forums.
Have there been any kind of official statement by the Russian state TV acknowledging that the story was based on fake documents ?
the original video – just to let all know what we are talking about
2nd video dose not lie you simply cant ignore the facts, 30mm cannon fire test looks exactly like that of the Boeing
They look quite different to me. i’m definitly not convinced by your video.
The 30mm rounds have all the same size and sharp circular shape whereas the holes found on the Boeing pieces are very irregular with huge variations in size and shape.
Crow11, you absolutely took the words out of my mouth, this is exactly what i was thinking to post regarding the “source” of this supposed satellite image depicting MH17. Indeed it’s a very likely scenario that the reporters from that TV got fooled, most of reporters of any creed are usually terrible in aviation matters anyway. They probably thought they hit the jackpot with a sensational story when this “source” got in touch with them. The very mention of “US MIT” should have made them think twice, but they foolishly didn’t. Also i never believe in coincidences on the political scene, this image and the sharply increased russophobe and warmongering rhetoric of the US axis and their ukrainian fascist…ummm, sorry, “democratic” puppets is coinciding with this G20 meeting.
Also, let’s not forget it could also be an INSIDE job, as there is for all intents and purposes an active fifth column (acting through NGOs and other outlets- guess who sponsors those NGOs) working against the russian state from within, perhaps someone from that TV allowed this to go on air INTENTIONALLY. Of course, the russophobe crowd here and everywhere think Putin himself controls and approves every single word and every single fart that ever gets said and done on russian TV, of course they are mental. They probably spill tears of joy and jump up and down screaming “commie russian propaganda fail, Russia & Putin so weak, Amerika so strong, oh so so strong!!11!!!1” But then you can’t ask much from a brainwashed group of citizens of Oceania (i don’t even know if to pity or loath them)… 😡
Whatever happened to MH17, and whatever happened and happens in Ukraine, it happened in only one way only, it was one single flow of events that can never be altered, the question is are we ever going to find out and/or be told what really happened and who is at fault? Because one thing is absolutely certain, it maybe be that the non-US aligned claims of the chain of events might not represent the absolute truth, but sure as hell neither is the US and it’s axis claims!
Here is another theory for you :
Moscow produced this fake story and made it ridiculous on purpose knowing that it would be debunked so quickly that smart people like you will start accusing the CIA to have done the job to ridicule Russian evidences.
On the other hand, most Russian people will just swallow what their Russian TV said.
win-win situation 😛
As we are in a modern fighter forum here is a technical point we can discuss concerning this joke :
Given the aspect angle of the Boeing, shouldn’t the sukhoi bank to the right in order to maintain its interception trajectory and its target in its sight while shooting ?
Shouldn’t the missile adopt a trajectory consistent with some kind of proportional guidance instead of flying in a perfect straight line ?
“”New radar data indicating that military aircraft were in the air near Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 when it crashed in eastern Ukraine on July 17 has been released by a Russian air safety consultancy.
Please, link your sources.
Such a report has zero value without knowing its origin and date.
notice it is on a Typhoon screen 😉
that’s more like a mirage 2000-5 MFD
Replaced by whom? Sarkozy? Vals? Copé? There’s a reason why the UMPS is called just that. It’s the same difference.
sarkozy sent us to Libya. hollande does the same in Syria, vals will probably do the same in Lebanon, or Iran, or wherever the agenda will be then.
Nic
Yet you can disagree, say so freely/publicly and vote for who ever you want at the next elections. What is your problem then ?
And what’s good for Hollande and his cronies is good for the french people? Considering what your own leaders have been doing in the past few years, I don’t know how you dare give lessons to others.
I don’t.
BTW,
Hollande will be gone in 3 years, Obama in 2 years.
What about Poutine ?
You seem to be well informed. Please elaborate on what the interests of Russia are and what should they have done better in order to protect them. Thank you..
No put itself in a situation where it is embargoed by the EU for a start.
My point is that what is good for Poutine might not be that good for Russia and its neighbors.
Putin alone has no more rights than anyone else. Russia as country has the (same as other countries) right to protect its interests. I don’t see how some people miss this fact.
Russia as country has the (same as other countries) right to protect its interests and is doing so very poorly, imho.