They shouldn’t have closed the M2K line permanently, but instead should have come up with M2K-NG, with something like 120KN engine, improved aerodynamics and an AESA.

That’s a Rafale. 🙂

R27T & ET IIRC.

But without mid course update I don’t know how the range could be fully utilised except for tail chase engagementsi.

Nic

And no LOAL capabily AFAIK.

R-27-T and ET are indead missiles dedicated to short to medium range tail shots that need a long sustained burst and require the IR seeker to be locked on before lauch.

The Mica-IR is a true BVR weapon.

Perhaps Tiffy riders learn a lil bit faster 🙂

They learn fast but raffy riders have to explain many times :p

I never said the PIRATE was build in France, but now since you want to know, it is built by a french owned company. Why ? Because Thales UK is own by Thales groups, which is own by french. And so from what I remember from my maths classes, if A = B and B = C then A = C.

As far as sensible weapon technologies are concerned, that’s wrong. There are strong firewall to prevent technology leaks between the different sub-companies of those conglomerates.
As an exemple, EADS casa has zero access to any missile technology developped by MBDA France with sate money without a direct agreement from the french government.

The same is true for the different sub -non French- companies own by Thales.

Faster than you may think a mind game becomes an argument and being presented as a “fact” which it isn’t.

I call such a phenomenon the “JOUST fantasy syndrome” … :diablo:

I thought batch 4 deliveries were scheduled to be completed in 2015:confused: If what you state is correct then there is no issue at all. The numbers make sense (12 per year).

The 5th batch should be ordered in 2015, but that doesn’t mean that the batch 4 deliveries will be over in 2015…

hi guys,

if any of you are still speaking to me, i wondered if you could help me.

We have been discussing RCS reduction on the MMRCA thread and i have been comparing the layout of the EAP (the earliest layout similar to the Typhoon that flew) with production standard Typhoons.

I wondered if it is possible to compare the Rafale prototype with the production Rafale in terms of the fuselage design and general wing body blending or intake design?

My opinion is that both typhoon and rafale got to a point in development where the designers thought “oh dear, we had better try and incorporate some RCS reduction if that is the way the world is going”.

do you see what i mean? 🙂

As far as the Rafale is concerned, the story tells that The French decided to go deeper in RCS reduction features for the Rafale, in the late 80s, after a trip of the French Defense Minister to the USA where the F-117 was presented to him.