A decision in Brazil, where the NG is again up against the Super Hornet and Typhoon is now “with the politicians”, Rosen says.

:rolleyes:

Contrary to Pepe’s conclusion, adding equal RCS (as in similar bomb load) to those fighters will make the difference between the two less.

Well, spectra is said to be able to treat peak radar signal generated by specefic weapons loads… like the scalp-EG for instance. this could explain a bigger gap than between a clean rafale and a clean F/A-18E. What do you think ?

I didn’t send anything. :rolleyes:

lol. asperger syndrome ?

BUT: what if the Rafale in some other international bid was winning on all accounts only to be swept aside by the whims of a single person, government organization or political group? Would you not be very upset?

This is exactly what happend to the rafale in Korea and Singapore.

There are 2 big differences though.

France can’t pressure Brazil as the US did on Korea and singapore…. so France is waiting for Brazil decision.
Brazil made it clear since the begining that the final choice will be political. And if i remember correctly, the political preference of the brazilian government was clearly stated as being the rafale 10 months ago.

It’s not Jobim fault if Saab is still hoping for a miracle.

Interesting question.

Obviously, Thales can do it, but maybe it was not considered a high priority for RBE2, & will be added later. Or maybe, as you speculate, RBE2 has it, & it’s just missing from the datasheet.

Well the datasheet says SAR modes

My humble opinion is that features will be implemented on the RBE-2AA step by step as it was the case with the pesa RBE-2.

also have you looked at the gripen aesa specs that you think is substandard to the rafale aesa
i think you will be in for a shock

Please, stop your little troll game.

Nobody here is saying that the gripen aesa is substandard.
What has been said is that its development is at an earlier stage than the rafale aesa which first production units will be delivered next month by Thales.

do you want me to explain the significance of not having ISAR to you ?

Go on

kovy
ok plugging wires together is thales, making it is swiss

Yes, Ruag is supplying the wiring. what is your problem with that ?

so whats the story with no more rafale for france for years

If Dassault get export orders (Brazil, UAE), the french air force may have to wait 2 years to get new rafale because the planes geting out of the production line will go to the export customers first.

So :

if no export orders : the french air force will continue to get about 15 rafale per year but upgrades might be slower
if export orders : the french air force will get no rafale for 2 years but upgrades will be faster.

But nothing has been decided yet.

There is one thing that seems puzzling to me; if the arguments for the Rafale are so overwhelming why all the delays in proclaming the winner of this competition? I think the most likely answer is that the arguments for Rafale are not that overwhelming after all… and Jobim needed all this extra time to “develop” the arguments to defend the choice…

Or more simply, the rafale price is quite high and Boeing/Saab are lobbying as hard as they can… therefore the brasilian government is pressuring the french to get as much as they can from this deal.