His non-commissioned number was 803420 which is pre-war Auxiliary Air Force
PS.
The page states that there was no Missing Air Crew Report for this flight
There is no MACR as the aircraft was not “Missing” they knew where it crashed. A MACR was usually only raised when they didn’t know where aircraft crashed (I.,e in enemy controlled areas or in the sea)
Adrian
I don’t know the full answer but I do know that it is very rare that you will find death registration of US Serviceman in UK in UK records there was apparently some protocol that meant they were not registered. Though don’t know what that was you will find some US names occasionally especially for incidents before 1942 (When they were “advisers”) and also when I assume authorities did register death before military intervention. U.K. Fatalities in same incident both in air and on ground (both Civilan and Military) are usually on UK register though
I am not an expert but the above is my own guess on the procedure based on years of research and I have never seen procedure written down
Paul
Andy are you sure it’s not from a Hudson ?
Sorry to dig up old thread
Crew of R3763 40 Sqn 25/26-07-1940
were
Pilot: Sgt Philip Harry Steele 566364
Obs: Sgt James Moore 581520
WO/AG: Sgt Roger Peacock 546775
All PoW and all baled out
The reason I was looking at this again is that Roger Peacock baleout in Into The Silk by Ian Mackersey pub 1956
Though the target not right in book. It describes how Peacock baled out very low after aircraft went into slow spiral spin had not heard baleout command. Pilot landed later in same area so jumped out in same ‘vertical spot’ in spiral spin but 6,000 feet higher but Obs landed several miles away
The plane blowing up underneath him inflated his only partially opened canopy and blew him up and sideways from wreckage and saved his life
G-CFGN P9373 has a quoted
Construction Number (C/N): 6S-30564
The one on ebay is HA1 6S 5419
The on Mark12 shows a C/N ending in NNN27 (or is this part of Drawing Number?)
I thought Frame 5 was the ‘CN’ so where did 6S-30564 come from which is not even the Cockpit number
P9373 is an established and previously registered project…G-CFGN.
The plate is from a sub-contracted sub-assembly.
Mark
Was sub-contracted sub-assembly… Frame 5 Firewall?
PS forget to add.
Not really a list of a Caterpillar Club members, really a list of all RAF Bail Outs that were not planned – At least 2 people I know never applied (probably due to the embarrassment of why they used a parachute) and a couple of official members were in all probability should not have claimed
One US individual was declined/refused membership probably due to political pressure. In fact in one edition of a book the whole chapter is removed after edition one. Would make a great thriller story!
Andy
I don’t know if they were I don’t have all the ‘official names’ from April 1940.
The GQ Club was formed in 1940 but don’t know if a Hudson gunner was so equipped in April 1940 ?
Paul
Andy thanks for this.. as this incident occurred before 1st May 1940 it was on my Caterpillar List. The other three crew who survived this incident all parachuted out: P/O Anthony Brien John Pearson #41200 (wounded) LAC William Ferguson Shaw #546061 later KIA Hudson N7315/Y – 5-3-1941 and LAC John Ness #568383 (I have previously been in contact with his son). Pearson landed in the fjord as did Ness (who was an Air Gunner) Shaw landed on the Northern Shore. At least Pearson and Ness returned to UK on HMS Galatea and so probably did Shaw
Ness was shot at by Norwegian solders who thought he as German parachutist, but was recovered from the water by locals (as was Pearson).
On the evening of September 30th 1951 a US Navy Pilot Naval Lt, (jg) Francis Coleman Anderson O-419051 was flying a Skyraider AD-1Q 09383 back from NAS Seattle to Mather AFB. The pilot became lost in bad weather and ditched off Point Reyes.
The aircraft ditched and the pilot and passenger (who had hitched a lift back to California from Seattle) had to struggle to get into Dinghy’s and paddle for the shore, where they arrived in the early hours of the following day October 1st 1951
The pilot was later KIA in Korea in a AD-4N Skyraider #125709 night bomber with Detachment F, Composite Squadron 35 aboard the carrier USS KEARSARGE (CVA-33) On January 28/29, 1953 Also killed was Aviation Electronics Technician Second Class John Robert Schmid #3182981 USN of Nebraska. Both crew are still listed as MIA (the aircraft serial is misquoted as #124748 on some web sites)
The passenger on the original ditching was an Army Private called Clinton ‘Clint’ Eastwood, and 65 years later he would direct the film Sully about an aircraft ditching on the Hudson river..
With thanks to George Kernahan on TOCH for furnishing me with the correct aircraft serials
Cant find the Conspicuous Gallantry Medal
573971 John ROBERTS -> Commissioned 54049
He won A DFM in 1944
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36341/supplement/430
is that
a) Two people
b) One Person leaning over cockpit
c) One person but with a hole on the bottom of the fuselage