I think what they mean is that all other crash sites were high impact with small structures maybe widely dispersed
this is a wreck you can see that but a whole wreck with larger structures
LS473 Delivered 15 MU 24.11.43. 817 Sqn Lee on Solent , failed to obtain climbing speed on take off with dummy torpedo Cat Z 6.1.44 S /L M H Sandes OK – Michael Hume Sandes
Sub Lt D J Williams is I think Douglas Julien Williams
Who may be this individual
Douglas Julien Williams
BIRTH
<1918>
DEATH
22 Sep 1996
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
BV739 Delivered 15 Maintenance Unit 17-7-43 822 Sqn Lee on Solent lost power on take off and ditched in shallow Water. Cat z 29-9-43. Pilot Sub Lt D J Williams OK. A photo of it in formation flight shows it was at once point coded P
From Air Britain. FAA WW2 Aircraft
FLIGHT International, 18 September I97S
Ejection-seat accident
A Royal Air Force pilot was killed
on September 6 when his ejection seat
fired after a display at the Royal Naval
Air Station Yeovilton. The aircraft,
one of two Harriers from the Operational Conversion Unit at Wittering
which had given the display, had
landed and was stationary when the
accident occurred. Flight understands
that the seat, a Martin-Baker zerozero type, was actuated when the pilot
was partially out of the cockpit and
no longer connected to it.
The aircraft involved was either
XV804/45 Harrier GR.3 233 OCU
XW922/49 Harrier GR.3 233 OCU
This is the Armed Forces Memorial listing for the pilot involved.
According to Wings Over Somerset.
It says that he survived the initial event but died in hospital.
Surname
BECKLEY
Forenames/Initials
Stephen
Rank
Flt Lt
Service
Royal Air Force
Service Number
4232484
Station
RAF Wittering
Date of Birth
06 March 1946
Age
29
Date of Death
06 September 1975
Cemetery Name
All Saints Churchyard
Cemetery Address
Wittering
Peterborough
Grave Row
4
Grave Number
78
Headstone/Markerstone
Included on Armed Forces Memorial
Yes
Included on Roll of Honour
Yes
For clarity Loomis was cleared of Murder at the Original Trial (well the charge was ‘not proven’) -he was appealing against the other 3 charges
I can’t see anything obvious in this lot
https://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/downloads/bfi-british-films-1927-1939.pdf
Sadly Smith died 3 years later
http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho…1931&styleid=3
SMITH, Ernest Frederick – the Dundee Evening Telegraph of April 3rd reports: “Mr Charles Maurice Brown, of Coombe Lodge, Addington Hill, Croydon, and his companion, Captain Frederick Ernest [sic] Smith (37), of Mount Park Avenue, Purley, were killed when their ‘plane crashed from a height of 500 ft. at Carshalton, Surrey.
Two years ago (sic) Captain Smith was severely injured when an aeroplane which was taking the part of a German bomber for a British film crashed into a house at East Hill, Sanderstead, Surrey.”
2.4.31 Avro Avian IIIA G-EBZD, C M Brown, Croydon
Crashed off loop, Carshalton, Surrey
Charles Maurice Brown (27) killed
Fg Off Ernest Frederick Smith (36) killed (RAFO)
http://www.rcawsey.co.uk/Acc1934.htm
PS I can’t see the House on Google Maps
It was 17 Nov 1928 NOT 1929
Hull Daily Mail – Saturday 17 November 1928
CRASH INTO HOUSE. AEROPLANE COMES TO GRIEF HIGH WIND. OCCUPANTS BADLY INJURED. • LONDON, Saturday.—An aeroplane, owned by the Surrey Flying Services, crashed into a house at the summit of East Hill, Sanderstead, to-day, and the occupants were seriously injured. The side of the house, ‘which is known as Katoomba,” and is tenanted by Mrs Carlisle, was demolished, and the ‘plane, after striking the house, fell into the garden, where its nose was buried the earth. Mr Victor Osborne, of Deering-road, Croydon, who, with many others, rushed to the scene immediately tbe crash was beard, described the scene to Press Association reporter. The machine was apparently flying low and struck a small ornamental tower of the house.” he said. ” It turned a complete somersault and then fell into the garden. The noise of the crash was tremendous. Two ambulances were rushed to the top of the steep hill within few minutes, and two of the three persons who, I believe, were the ‘plane, were immediately taken to hospital. rear portion of the ‘plane —quite a small machine —was sticking over the fence and the people who hurried to the spot were prevented from approaching the wrecked machine. The whole of one side of the house seemed to have been torn away and the tower, so far as I could see, was demolished. ” A man who lived a quarter of a mile away told me that just before the crash the aeroplane flew very low over his garage. Whether the pilot was in difficulties I cannot say.” It is believed the ‘plane was one of two engaged filming operations. There was a very high wind blowing at the time of the crash. The injured were: Fredk. Ernest Smith (35), of Wynot,” Mount Park-avenue, Purley, pilot of the machine, who is suffering from concussion and abrasions (his condition is critical) ; and Fredk. Kent (28), of Purley, his companion in the machine, who has a fractured arm. Both men are detained Croydon General Hospital.
Thanks Trolly Aux
date should be 10 6 1940
Can anyone tell me where the Data Plate would have been fixed ?? Cockpit ??
Hawker Aircraft Ltd
Serial No 41H131658
Drawing No: D57580 D72075
P3966
Date 10 8 1940
Stamped HA217
Thanks
Paul
“A Number of Swift airframes went to Australia for Operation Buffalo in 1956, being placed at various distances from a detonating atomic bomb.” See Wikipedia
They were used in on the the Nuclear tests in Oz to determine the impact of explosion on airframes etc