Chaps. I get the hatred and pure vile you reserve for my country. I really do, but trying to make the flimsiest of connections with aviation by such posts just proves the depth pf insecurity you have.

Can we stick to aviation. If not, why not just open a “Things I hate about Pakistan thread” seperately and lets keep this one clean?

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Heli-Sking with Pakistan Army!

All Llama helicopters now replaced with AS Fennecs for Northern Area duties

Anyone with the interests of India at heart would oppose it tooth and nail. Arguing for the tender to be scaled back or scrapped is one thing, but simply substituting another contender for Rafale is absurd.

I think it is useful to observe the (public) silence of both the Russians and Americans on this matter, in contrast to the very public clamouring from Germany and the UK. At a certain point, continued advocacy of Typhoon becomes both juvenile on the part of those nations, and disrespectful of India and its processes.

Cant see any clamboring from Germany at all. It is all in the heads of the Indian/Russian press. No German comment so far. Probably because they are wise enough not to be led up the garden path on false promises from India. UK and France are already learning this lesson……

More details on TUSAP 2014

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pakistan-receives-last-upgraded-f-16s-403440/

“Meanwhile, Pakistan has sent six of its F-16s to Konya air base to take part in an Anatolian Eagle-series exercise, which is due to conclude on 12 September. The Turkish air force has allocated 27 of its F-16s, along with a Boeing 737 airborne early warning and control system aircraft and two Airbus Helicopters AS532s.”

Any idea how reliable this report is ??? … again wishful thinking or finally – after so many year – a rethink of the PLAAF ???

Deino

Genuinely no idea, thats why I asked if others had sources.

China to Induct JF-17 – Chinese official

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-32684-Sichuan-to-complete-$2-b…

Lets see the usual suspects spin this and accuse Janes of being unreliable now…….

Indian Air Force unhappy at progress of PAK-FA fifth-gen fighter

http://www.janes.com/article/42765/indian-air-force-unhappy-at-progress-of-pak-fa-fifth-gen-fighter

“Officials claim Russia is unwilling even to share details of a fire that erupted aboard a prototype PAK-FA as it landed at the Zhukovsky test centre near Moscow in June. An IAF technical evaluation team at the site was reportedly not permitted access to the fire-affected platform.”

“Under the new arrangement, HAL will only provide the FGFA only with tyres, basic navigation equipment, laser designation pods, heads-up-displays and additional coolant for the radar, official sources said.”

“As a result, in recent months the IAF has significantly reduced the number of FGFA aircraft it plans to acquire from around 220 to 130-145.”

What is the consensus on what is going to happen with China’s 500+ remaining J-7s (and Q-5s, J-8s…) At current production rates China can’t hope to replace more than a fraction of existing airframes, so will we see —

a.) significant increase in production rates
b.) aircraft retired without replacement and units disbanded
c.) units transition to other capability types e.g. airlift, unmanned systems
d.) some combination of the above

I think even the Chinese have figured out they dont need one for one replacements for the J-7s.

J-10B, J-20, J-31 are light years ahead of their F-7s in terms of capabilities…..