Skybolt
My point was a simple one, which you sidestepped with at least 51 years worth of aplomb. π
I, along with many others, have seen fit to criticise the Rally this year. It categorically did not live up to the original “Flying for Fun” hype – which would have had us believe that this was an event intended to appeal to the broad church of GA. Instead, we were treated to the usual PFA Rally with a new name. No harm in that, but not what was described in the PR releases.
That criticism is clearly a commonly held view if popular feedback is to be believed. Your 97% positive personal feedback may well be your own experience, but was totally unreflective of my own experience which is uncoloured by being part of any management team. This negative view is certainly the prevalent amonst many of the stall-holders. The PFA needs to sit back, listen and adapt, rather than going into its customary denial mode.
One of the most commonly-used defences deployed by the PFA under these circumstances is to attempt to suggest that anybody who raises a criticism against it,is in fact attempting to pull the whole GA industry down. This was the defence that you used several postings ago. It is a weak and unworthy strategy and may go down well within the PFA, but doesn’t wash outside.
That is my point, no more, no less. I don’t believe that the argument is complex enough to need supporting by any kind of personal CV.
The approach taken by the proposed Booker show next year will be one to watch with interest. By all accounts, they really are chasing a broader market.
I think you may be taking my “Grubby Spotters” comment a little to heart young man!
But I do get a bit upset about comments such as Skybolts.
Either we stop knocking general aviation as it is here or we shall have to toss a coin to see which of us is to turn out the light on GA.
I struggle to see how it might be possible to confuse “Knocking an uninspired Rally with little to offer the Broad base of GA” with “Knocking GA”.
We have to be free to critisise a show which demonstrably did not live up to its PR releases without being told that we are in effect undermining GA in general. On the contrary, it does our representatives good to be told once in a while that trotting out the usual old excuses isn’t a substitute for effective and dynamic representation.
It is true that our friends in AOPA US have many more members than our Myriad “representative bodies” put together, but they also have something else that we seem to lack – inspired, and charismatic leadership. Where is the charismatic individual who personifies GA in the eyes of our regulators?
Trinny: So is your immersion suit ‘a little more feminine’?
It certainly is. Suitably tailored at the waist,even the humble immersion suit can help you to stay fashionable whilst bobbing around in Ocean waiting for a lift. Salt water is an excellent aid to an exfoliation regime too.
I can see that you are a flyer with some style-potential Janie. π
You’d be a brave man to fly around with that made public.
I don’t believe we’ve met, but I’m already worried about you and fear that you would benefit from a session in front of the full-length mirror.
Wearing a Babygro when you fly may well make you look like a man, but I prefer to fly in something a little more feminine.
And I mean that in a very nice way!
My old friend Dave from Heathrow FIS was marshalling me. I wouldn’t describe him as a Grubby Spotter, although he was more than a little moist as he helped me down off the wing. A true gentleman.
I know many of the fine chaps in the tower too. Not one of them would admit to being a spotter, although one of them, John, owns and flies a rather super Cub.
I didn’t take fuel at Kemble, on the basis that anything requiring that much pre-planning, taxiing and faffing was probably best avoided. Did they hire Spotters in to do that then?
Some of us “grubby spotters” as you like to call us keep a collection of photos of the aircraft. Some, like me, cannot remember the exact registrations and, when they see the pictures, find that they were not close enough for it to be readable.
I’m not sure what you want me to say in response to that. How about “stand closer to the aircraft that you are photographing…” or how about “write the registrations down at the time, on a charming little notepad like the rest of the grubby spotters do. Oops.
If I understand ‘bright-girl’ Trinny correctly and I believe I do, I think the main problem is that “enthusiasts” are badly dressed.
Well, that certainly is an issue! Far too many clichΓ©s wondering around in silly hats, white socks and sandals and rather sad T-shirts. Don’t their wives look after them? Maybe they don’t have wives.
My biggest worry though is that they appear to have an obsession for registration marks rather than aircraft. That’s slightly scary!
Paulc, I am a bright girl and I had not missed that point. I still find “number collectors” a more accurate description of what I saw happening at the Rally, but I am willing to learn that I am wrong.
I too picked up the Booker pamphlet. Looks like the event is going to be run by the charismatic chap behind GA Buyer. That said, Booker doesn’t look like a winner to me for lots of reasons. Let’s start with “too small” and “too close to the London CTR”.
The Rally is always rich with some of the most atrocious examples of poor airmanship. At least, at Kemble, it is a fair way away from anywhere that matters.
Gratuitously offensive, that’s me. :diablo:
I have no idea whether or not all of the people I saw were enthusiasts, but I did see an awful lot of middle-aged males (which they invariably were) spotting who seemed far more interested in the numbers and letters on the side of the aircraft, than in the aircraft themselves. A case of missing the point perhaps? Collecting numbers and letters for their own sake does seem slightly odd to me, but I am sure that they all care deeply about the aircraft and that the first impression they give is incorrect.
My problem with the PFA Rally was that it was advertised as being “different this year”; aimed at a rather broader aviation fraternity. I couldn’t see that. It was very much the same old story and I fear that the format has now become tired. Where is the kind of exhibit like the MATS Connie of a few years ago?
Perhaps some new blood is needed with a fresh perspective.
who else is lining offering to organise the largest G.A event in Europe?
Oh dear! I sense a little head in the sand moment there! Have you never heard of AERO 2005 at Friedrichshafen. That was fantastic. It left the PFA’s event in the mud, I’m afraid.
Frankly, it was all a little disappointing. I was led to believe by the PFA press release announcing “Flying for Fun”, that this would be some sort of new experience, not at all like previous PFA rallies.
Sadly, it was not to be. There were fewer stalls, spread over a wider area to give the impression of size. The stalls were a bunch of the usual companies, mixed in as usual with the customary vendors of aerocrap. Who really wants to buy a rusty old exhaust that fell off its previous two vehicles?
Grubby spotters outnumbered the pilots by a factor of at least five to one and the weather didn’t help very much either.
Another year in which somebody will make a bit of a loss, I fear.
Trinny
There must be a good story to tell about a certain female attire tied to the left cockpit post in the last photo. π π
It’s a bow tie, you moron π
There are plenty of countries (France for example), where monitoring Guard on box 2 is a legal requirement if you are equipped that way.
If VFR, 121.5 will be the frequency they try and get you on as they send the fighters up.
For developing a sound instrument scan it is pretty good. For almost any other aspect of flying, you can forget it.
As some of you know, I was recently doing a tour of the US offering fashion advice up and down the entire Eastern Seaboard with my partner in crime, the lovely Stella.
We paid an average of $3.42 per USG, which if our calculators are correct amounts to just 47p/Litre. We loved it so much, we’re thinking of coming over to the US for good.