Well, there’s a old saying that if u have a weak power then u need a superior aerodynamic design to compensate the weakness. Yet we see CAC features another unconventional design. Probably to cut every onus of weight, so range could be longer. Anyway, endurance is all abt a scouting UAV
That’s a good point. So why didn’t they go with a conventional high aspect ratio wing like the Global Hawk? Why go for an unconventional boxed wing when it robs fuel capacity and range?
While ppl may put too much emphasis on the aero-dynamic aspects but ignored the weakness of Chinese aviation power plants. The engine for global hawk is optimized for high latitudes, long haul flight but Chinese haven’t put into service any engine rivals that of GH. I guess what power plants available? WS 13 turbofan? I’m not sure it has undergone that high latitude test or not. WP13 turbojet, yea, it’s proven when it powers J8 High latitude high speed jet. Eventhough, all these, without afterburner, will not give satisfactory oil consumption.
A clearer picture:

What power plant, WS13?
I decide not to feed the troll by the monster which posted his pic in # 83 π
Anyway, it’s like before, time will prove. And time has proved many. The J16 is around the corner awaiting its first flight soon. It will not disappear by any monster’s yelling & ranting.
An exciting video highlights all the achievements of J20 test flight so far, now can be viewed on youtube:
what are you talking about? what does your moment in gloating have to do with Su-35S and J-11B.. or even J-15!?
Don’t get too smart by copycating my used tactic for answering u last time.
If the concern is credibility, then my last post was answering it. There’s no public info on Chinese military aviation currently under development. It’s a long consensus of this board. Take it or leave as all it takes. Only newbie or slowmo don’t know I guess.
shame on you. stop trolling with non sense comments like that. there’s no public info on the J-16 yet for you to spew flankerism comments. and this thread isnt even on the J-16 or Pak-fa. do u see it in the title? want me to re-edit the first post for you so it can say J-16 and Pakfa?
Shame on u when ur handle with J 20 but ” no public info” on it. π
Hey, when I opened the J20 thread, few believed and none took serious look at the pic of j20 imagery I posted. Then look back, the imagery looks exactly as the real thing.
If want ” public info ” u need wait ten years then cab talk. Haha, I guess u r not the fresh in this board?
J15 is a more logic comparison to su35s. Both still more or less a flanker aerodynamic design, both are abt to enter service. Both feature phased arrary radar. Like J10b is a further improvement from J10a , J15 is an enhancement of J11b in terms of avionics & radar.
J16 is less like flanker than PAk-FA does.
J-11B is a better analog to Su27SM instead of Su35. both J11B & Su-27sm have been in active service but not Su35. The upcoming J-16 whose inaugural flight will be expected by this year end, will mark the SAC’s formal walkaway from design of flanker airfram. The stealthy J16, said to be with TVC internal weapon bay etc, will be a better challenger to Su35
bgnewf’s comments weren’t really related to the question either but you still answered it :diablo:
now quit changing subjects, is the J-15 part of this license or not. and yes the J-15 is mentioned in the first post now, just for you.
Lol, how shameless behavior by editting and changing. :rolleyes:
Even the J15, per deputy head of the Russian Federal Military-Technical Cooperation Service, it’s “neither confirm, nor deny”, which standing actually gives freehand to SAC for further developing. beause it had made it clear: the Russian Authority will stand out only when SAC violate IP rights. if you don’t see Russian Authority says a word: means evrything ongoing is perfectly within IP agreement.
mate, i had dedated all those stuff when flogger/Mig-23MLD /Star 49 era. when you probably was still Hamburger or something, yet to be evolved to “hotdog”
hey wait a minute, why didn’t you highlight the rest of the article, especially this part
so is the J-15 also part of this license? or is it a violation of IP rights?
What the hell are you talking, is the topic J15 or the guy was referring to J15 instead of J11B?
One is the original article and the other is a gross violation and outright theft of intellectual property rights.
We have constantly observed your outright bashing of everything Chinese without due backup of your accusation. I would say itβs βIt was a NO display of trained and disciplined valourβ, An insult to your own good words displayed in your own signature?
Russia has no questions to China about βcopyingβ military equipment
FARNBOROUGH. July 19 2010 (Interfax-AVN) – China is using Russian and Soviet know-how to develop and build aircraft, Alexander Fomin, first deputy head of the Federal Military-Technical Cooperation Service, said at a news conference at the Farnborough air show.
“It is an accomplished fact. China is vigorously developing its defense industry, not without Russia’s assistance, of course,” he said.
The Soviet Union built about 3,000 enterprises, while Russia handed China licenses to make aircraft and components,” he said.
“We handed over a large amount of know-how to China, including information related to the defense industry. It is not surprising that it repeats itself in Chinese products,” he said.
Asked whether China has developed a fighter jet which it claims excels Russia’s Sukhoi Su-33, Fomin said, “I can neither confirm, nor deny this.”“Concerning the Su-33, Russia did not deliver such planes to China. If our Chinese partners have them, they were not received from Russian sources,” he said.
Fomin said Russia has no questions to China so far. “We have an agreement on the protection of intellectual property rights. If we uncover copyright violations, we will deal with this within the framework of the agreement,” Fomin said.
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(Our editorial staff can be reached at [email]eng.editors@interfax.ru[/email])
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=98077&page=9
Transformer?;)
Note the difference between left & right nozzles
Actually after April, the J20 flew more than dozen times in mere two months time.
We can’t rule out there are maybe more than one prototype in flight test.