633 Squadron & Dambusters Star Wars video tribute
OK, someone (ahem) had too much time on their hands when they did this… both 633 Sqn & Dam Busters Star Wars in this mash up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mop2WFRfxow&feature=channel_video_title
Some say Star Wars was based on the end of the Dambusters. Others say it was based on 633 Squadron.
Connections
Waves of three aircraft attack, line abreast down a valley / trench.
Guns on the towers fire back. The targetting system are two bars which, at a predetermined point, line up and the bombs are released.
Lucas himself admits inspiration by 633 Squadron, but never really admitted the DamBusters connection…. But wait a minute… What about this dialogue??
Star Wars:
“How many guns Red 2?”
“I’d say about fifty guns, some on the walls, some on the towers”
The Dam Busters:
“How many guns d’you think leader?”
“I’d say about fifty guns, some in the fields, some in the towers”
Still not convinced? check out the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mop2WFRfxow&feature=channel_video_title
Parachute Silk of one of The Few and autographed Photo on Ebay
Thank you for visiting this post. Please allow me to share a special message from one of The Few.
Flight Lieutenant Charles “Tich” Palliser DFC AE is trying to help raise money for the Memorial Trust, through sale of a signed photo, and a bookmark, made from the parachute he used throughout the Battle of Britain.
“Tich” Palliser is one of only four Battle of Britain pilots living in Australia, but hopes this message reaches readers around the world.
Follow this link and click on Ebay icon
This bookmark has been made for you by my daughter, from silk from the parachute I carried throughout the Battle of Britain. This parachute had been preserved to this day by my sister and is now being used to raise money for the Education Centre of the Battle of Britain Memorial Trust.
This is a very important cause as it keeps this part of history alive. It teaches people about what was a turning point in the history of World War II. I looked on the makers and packers of the parachutes as “agents of God” – they saved so many lives.
Follow this link and click on Ebay icon
Thanks so much for reading, and for helping “Tich” Palliser share his story.
The best place to display the remains of the arcraft is at the Lashenden Air Warfare Museum at Headcorn Kent. We already have the Rolls Royce Merlin XII & the prop boss on display as part of the Andrew Cresswell collection along with a fitting tribute to John Gilders.
We would be only to pleased to give the remains an appropriate home.
Finding Sergeant Gilders – Patrol Failed to Return – Spitfire P7816
“Sergeant Gilders was killed on February 21st 1941 when his Spitfire P7816 dived into soft ground near the Great Stour River at Chilham, Kent and buried itself. In April 1994 the site was investigated with a new owners permission and Gilders’ body was found. The recovery operation (by Mark Kirby) was done with the co-operation of the pilot’s family. On May 12th 1995 Gilders was buried in Brookwood Military Cemetery, with full military honours.”
http://www.battleofbritain.tv/TheFew.html
Thank you all for your comments and advice. This response is intended as an update to these discussions albeit some time later.
Every effort has been taken to try to move the remains of Sergeant Gilders Spitfire (P7816) to a public display.
AeroHistorian, thank you so much for your recommendation, and we all agreed that Lashenden Air Warfare Museum would be the most suitable choice. This is particularly inspired by the generous acts of archaeologist, Andy Cresswell’s family in donating his own collection to Lashenden, after his loss. For these parts to be brought together with the parts currently on display at Lashenden, including the merlin engine, will also be a fitting tribute to John.
Sign-off and agreement was required from various parties, firstly the family, and secondly the MOD, and those in charge of the current, private collection. I am grateful to everyone involved in this process, but many reading this message would appreciate such things take a long time, and the process continues to this day. I hope the museum still has space for this extended collection, and that these plans can come together one day in the near future.
Thank you also Tangmere1940 for all your help and advice (including privately).
“Finding The Few” by Andy Saunders, and “Missing in Action: Resting in Peace” by Dilip Sarkar remain the best publications covering the story of Sergeant John Stanley Gilders, and Aviation Archaeology in General.
Here’s hoping that all the discussions and correspondence to date will finally lead to a public display of John’s Spitfire.
Not only was John Gilders one of the missing for so long, he was also one of the forgotten Aces. In the most recent update of ‘Aces High’, John Gilders was added to the illustrious list of Battle of Britain Aces. This was following the recognition of an HE111 ‘forced down’ on 15th September:
“Christopher Shores adds that claim to his victories in Aces High Volume 2 page 94 and states that the revised total was 5 plus 1 shared and 3 damaged. JS Gilders … is definitely recognised as an ace.”
message from an Historian friend
In the meantime, whatever readers’ opinion on this posthumous recognition of Sgt J S Gilders, please spare him a thought.
I share below a link to a short film I made about the story of John’s recovery. :
http://www.battleofbritain.tv/Archaeology.html
Thanks again, and putting my hopes in success with the public display of John’s Spitfire at Lashenden Airwarfare museum.
Last of the Few P7816
Interesting to note that the remains of Sgt John Gilders Spitfire are stored here, although I believe I am correct in saying that the engine (originally held by the late Andy Cresswell) is displayed at Headcorn as I am sure Aerohistorian may be able to confirm. Other parts are displayed at the Purfleet Heritage Centre. The items from this aircraft at Stafford were impounded by the MOD.
It would be great to see the rest of this plane on display in one of the museums. As I write this John Gilders, excavated in 1994, was the last Battle of Britain pilot to be recovered, although more BOB recoveries are still ongoing.
For those interested, I really recommend Andy Saunder’s book ‘Finding the Few’, which examines the struggles behind each of the main Battle of Britain digs which took place up until the 90’s.
John’s my Great Uncle, and until the archaeologists found him, there was uncertainty in the family what had happened to him. RAF and MOD confusion led his Father to believe any number of outcomes could have been possible – including a suggestion that he parachuted out and was taken prisoner, or lost at sea!
When the archaeologist Mark Kirby first contacted my family, to say they had found John, it was the end of a 50 year mystery. His brother and sister, and former fiancee were still alive. For all they knew, John was still wondering the streets with amnesia, so this looked like the last page to the book of questions that had been left unanswered.
A year of anxiety for family and archaeologists ensued, including Mr Kirby’s arrest (and subsequent full exoneration since he was acting with the family’s permission). Many months later John was finally laid to rest, with full military honours. His brother and fiancee were able to say their final farewell and achieve closure. It remained too hard for his sister to attend.
The archaeology team, entirely self-funded put years of work into the research behind this recovery, and so it was with great regret when I found the majority of the plane was still ‘impounded’.
Having finally negotiated with the Ministry of Defence, the family has taken steps to ensure P7816 will soon be moving to a museum. Work is currently underway to secure a grant for an appropriate display of the remains of John’s plane.
The last of The Few to be recovered… ( so far…. please see Andy’s book, and catch the BBC’s ‘Dig 1940’ next year to see what happens next for the remaining missing few)
In the meantime please contact me if you have any suggestions for how best the remains of John’s plane could be displayed.
Many thanks,
Bob TV
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