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  • in reply to: Terminator 2020 #2657277
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    For a moment I thought you were talking about Terminator 2020 as the third in squel for Terminator and T2 movie 😀 :7

    I thought he was talking about the sequel where Terminator goes to protect Jesus :p ..you saw that parody?

    in reply to: Your Pick for the Best Point Defence Fighter! #2657281
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    An upgraded F-5 with comparable avionics, weapons, is still quite a potent machine, and for a fairly low price.

    and apart from that, it looks more beautifull than any other fighter. Its just lean and beautifully mean :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Indian AF – News & Discussions – Jan 2005 #2657292
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    This is the fifth time that Israel has participated in the fair. The last time, Pakistan warned it not to sell India any weaponry that could be used against it. There were no reports of any warning this year.

    WAT!? LOL! Why would Pakistan warn Israel..both the countries have no hostilities…the word “warn” fits no where apart from the reporter’s head!

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 5 #2658233
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    Talk about daily plane spotting..I live next to Chaklala Airbase 😉 , You can fly a kite higher than the plane when it crosses our family house

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 5 #2659715
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    I doubt Pakistan will take Flankers, How many types of frontline fighters does PAF wants to operate? aroun 2010 perioud you’d have F-7PGs, JF-17s, F-16s and another fighter incase PAF doesnt pays for F-16.

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    The best hope for Iran is strong Agitation in Iraq..that is my beleive…thats the only way they can have some sort of effective counter-strike. USA has already broken the rules in Iraq, and unconditional support on Israel’s Nuke program, so it doesnt matter anymore Iran breaks one rule or all. The World will have sympathy towards Iranians for obvious reasons.

    in reply to: Indian AF – News & Discussions – Jan 2005 #2660207
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    Tejas being designed to replace the aging MiG aircraft of the Indian Air Force from the next decade.

    From 2010 they’ll start replacing Migs with LCA… :rolleyes: ..I thought ppl said it was 2007.

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 5 #2660219
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    its not clear whether the J-11 contract allows for the export of J-11s. If the contract allows for the export of J-11s after a fixed time period, then China may sell advanced Flankers to allies like Pakistan.

    I read somewhere on this forums that China would be able to sell the Flankers after ~ 2010-2011.

    in reply to: PAF News and Discussion #2660223
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    US agrees to continue talks for F-16s

    By Arshad Sharif and Khawar Ghumman

    ISLAMABAD, Feb 3: Defence needs of Pakistan were discussed at a meeting of the Pak-US Defence Consultative Group here on Thursday and the US side made a commitment to speed up delivery of the promised multi-million dollar military equipment, starting from next month.

    However, officials said the meeting held at the defence ministry did not succeed in breaking the deadlock on the issue of F-16s and the two sides agreed to hold further discussions on Pakistan’s request for the aircraft.

    “Both sides agreed to keep the F-16 issue on the agenda of talks till a final decision is reached,” said the US Under- Secretary for Defence, Mr Douglas Feith, while answering journalists’ questions.

    Sources said Islamabad wanted about 25 F-16s, worth more than $20 million a piece. Mr Feith and Pakistan’s Secretary Defence Lt. Gen. (retd) Hamid Nawaz led their sides at the meeting, the first held after Pakistan was declared by the US a Major Non-Nato Ally in June 2004.

    Talking to journalists, Mr Feith reaffirmed the US commitment to meet Pakistan’s defence needs and bolster defence trade between the two countries. He said: “Pakistan has been developing ideas to undertake defence trade with the US.”

    The renewed US commitment came after notification by Pentagon of a $1.3 billion arms package for Pakistan, including sale of eight P-3C Orion planes, six C-130 transport planes and trainer aircraft, besides radars and other surveillance equipment.

    Lt Gen (retd) Hamid Nawaz said the supply of C-130 aircraft would begin by mid-March and expressed the hope that the delivery would be on schedule. He said many defence items were being supplied to Pakistan and more were in the pipeline.

    He said regional security issues, including Pakistan-India relations, and the post-election situation in Iraq also came under discussion during the meeting.

    Mr Feith appreciated the steps taken by Pakistan and India to ease tension and resolve outstanding issues through a process of composite dialogue. He said the US was in favour of continuation of dialogue between India and Pakistan.

    “We are taking serious interest in the dialogue so that people of Pakistan and India may live in peace and stability. We are in favour of steps for peace and security in the region,” he said.

    Later, briefing media-persons at the American Centre, Mr Feith said: “During the DCG meeting, we had a wide-ranging discussion including the outcome of Iraqi elections, successful completion of the electoral process in Afghanistan, ongoing dialogue between India and Pakistan, war on terror, Pakistan-US defence trade relations and other regional issues.”

    In response to a question, Mr Feith said Pakistan being an important neighbour of Iran could play an effective role in persuading it to relinquish its ambition to become a nuclear power and, instead, follow the Libyan example which would help her (Iran) to be better off without nuclear weapons.

    The US, he said, was supporting all efforts which were being made by the European Union and elsewhere in the world, and Pakistan was an important voice in the world to dissuade Iran from becoming a nuclear power.

    On the issue of Baglihar Dam which has triggered tension between India and Pakistan, he said the US supported resolution of all outstanding issues between the two countries through diplomacy.

    When specifically asked if any concrete progress was made at the DCG meeting, he said the meeting was part of the ongoing active collaboration in all fields. President Bush, he added, had already announced a financial assistance of $300 million per year for five years.

    The US is providing helicopters and advanced military equipment to Pakistan and both countries have substantial defence trade and have common concerns. When a journalist asked about the status of investigations into the A.Q. Khan network, the US Ambassador to Pakistan, Mr Ryan Clark Crocker, said Pakistan had assured the US that it had completely destroyed the network and would address any query surfacing in future.
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    Seems like 25 F-16s…that would make a total of around ~55 F-16s and later on all will have mid-life upgrade…that is the path thats seems on horizon if they price tag is around ~20 million. But the news mentions MORE than 20…now we dont know the uper limit but I personally beleive it will not be more than around 40.

    in reply to: China not happy with J-10, now cloning F-16 #2660623
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    certainly not 50.

    in reply to: China not happy with J-10, now cloning F-16 #2660655
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    Plz stop insulting other nations.

    in reply to: PAF News and Discussion #2660685
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    It is good to see a comment like pakistan is trying to become moderate state.

    Pakistan is a moderate state since guess what… 14th August 1947…it is very polite of us that nobody used harsh language against your cheap and ignorant comment.

    Pakistan needs P-3 not only against terrorists but also against human smuggling, heroin trade etc.

    in reply to: China not happy with J-10, now cloning F-16 #2660692
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    wind tunnel models can be used to gather intelligence to some extent..this is something I learned on this forums.

    Remember they also showed Rafale model…in wind tunnel..next thing we know:
    “ProtonRiver Reports that China is Copying Rafale”

    😀

    in reply to: Afghans want their aircrafts back from Pakistan #2662576
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    I thought the americans paid for that..but we should charge them for the trouble the heroin causes, its not like Afghan Gov is blind and cant find acres of opium farms…Another good idea, fix the planes, fly em to afghanistan..first offcourse strike the opium farms and Dostum with napalm 😉 and do the world another favour. Thats the only fair deal I can really think of.

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    Government pressing Iran to compromise on nuclear dispute: DAVOS, Jan 30: Government is exerting behind the scenes pressure on Iran to compromise in its acrimonious dispute with Europe and the United States over its nuclear programme, diplomatic sources say. Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz and Foreign Minister Khurshid Kasuri passed on their concerns during a meeting at the weekend with Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi. Kasuri, for his part, said Pakistan supported negotiations led by Britain, France and Germany, to reach a lasting deal that would allay US charges that Iran is covertly developing nuclear weapons. “We feel the role the (EU three) are playing is positive, because we feel that a peaceful resolution to this dispute is highly desirable,” Kasuri told AFP on the margins of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “Being their neighbours, and already with the Iraq situation being what it is, we wouldn’t want another turmoil on our border,” he said. “We paid a big price” in Afghanistan “We don’t want a similar destabilisation on our border again, so we have a vested interest in a peaceful resolution of this dispute.” Pakistani officials say that Tehran has been warned “bluntly, bordering on rudeness,” of their concerns and urged “not to make the mistake” of ignoring the Europeans. “We have not minced our words,” a diplomatic source said.

    http://www.dawn.com/2005/01/30/welcome.htm

    Yeup, keep em busy in negotiations.

    Anyway, Attack on Iran will do wonders for so called “Islamic” extremists….these wars are already getting heavy on american budgets..dunno what will happen next, First thing Bush should do is stop thinking he is being ordered by God to do crap on Earth, You cant think like a Roman Emperor..they were all paranoids!

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