$23 million is a very logical price of LCA, the price may come down with introduction of more indigenous key components like Engine.
Tanks firing ATGMs is nothing special…and Tandem warheads in Anti-tank roles is also nothing new..the only interesting piece of news is Israel’s involvement, which isnt, shocking anyway..with thousands of ATGMs on every side, I dont know how long the tanks will survive these days…arright Iraq is a special case..its RPG vs 70 ton monster…even that makes the crew bleed.
Originally posted by Wolverine
Su30 series are awhole different bunch of aircraft meant for heavier loads and longer range. so what are you going to do wit the FC1? make a customer specific larger version of it?
I was talking about Avionics.
First Tyhpoon rolled out 100 million was it? F-22 is somewhere at <200 million…now JSF should be somewhere between.
35-40 million..ya sure…as true as Iraq’s WMDs
Wolverine, just see the type of offensive posture you use, and then you you say why you get flame..there’s a word called ‘decency’ in English Dictionary.
Fc-1 offers nothing new??? Depends upon the customer…So what new stuff Su-27 offers? well..Su-30MKx…see the difference.
Yeup, PAK seriously needs mid-high alt SAMS..point 2 and 3 have all ready made news..
4 and 5 looks logical..point 5..it might come in with full ToT…or may not come at all..thats what i think.
Originally posted by crobato
The “10” is in Chinese. It’s that cross like symbol in the book.
dont you think every word there looks something like what you said??? :rolleyes:
@Crobato: If I’m right, Griffo had planned to propose Griffo-2000 for J-10 to China, seems like Chinese arent interested…how would one compare Griffo-2000 to RC-400, offcourse earlier one being superior..just want to see the difference…they also used G2k on F-16 MLU program back home..?
Politics is the worse thing happened on Earth, after Humans.
anyways, what are the advantages of these ‘diamond’ like wings you see on F-22s and F-CK-1 ?? and disadvantages??
posted b4, posting again:
http://www.voodoo.cz/falcon/an/falcon_combat.avi
This one is for Erez 😉
Will China Allow (in future) for PAF to buy J-10 with Western Avionics??? It would do wonders for PAF, would be highly cost effective 4rth gen fighter.
I heard engines arent that responsive…not sure tho..
Originally posted by SD-10
You didnot get the point. I would rather pound the enemywith heaviest PGMs rather than numerous lighter pin pricks.
Flankers and J-10s are most efficient in Strike role. Using them for
escorting duties is pure waste of large fighter ability.
Now with AWACS in the game the advantage of bigger radars
of heavy weight fighters is minimized in Air to Air role.
no no, u’r missing the point, J-10 and Flankers can strike and defend themselves as well!! They dont need escorts. But fe escorts are worth it..why loose J-10 when you can cover it up with Fc-1…and both planes can go home happily.
and as you said sending them to escort is useless, J-h7as are good bombers i feel, but not fighters really, not that agile (thats what ppl say on forums, no sure okay), so J-h7As will need escorts, thats where Fc-1 comes in…unless F-7mf comes in..but i believe China should end its obsession with mig-21 and there varients..i.e. F-7mf.
FC-1 costs 15m with Western avionics, and with Chinese..its around $12m, now if China goes for mass production, Economies of Scale can take the price even more down.
I think its about time for F-7mf vs Fc-1 thread..
Flanker and J-10s can holdthere own againstenemy planes when on strike missions, I doubt JH-7a has the luxury of doing that, firing of BVR is not everything, so maybe FC-1s can be used to provide cover for JH-7as which will go for some strike missions
(remember to ignore)
anyone knows the RCS of SD-10?? and of meteor and aim-120 for sake of comparison…
one was posted just few days ago..it was not the ‘final’ f-7mf, but mig-21 with air intake under the nose…so basically a development stage of f-7mf