At the time the various nations are making their decision between F-104, F11F-2 Super Tiger, Mirage II, Draken, etc the Spey is still under development, and no one has begun even theoretical planning for a supercharger for it.
Are you sure? The Spey was not exactly just drawing board material in the 1960’s.
Yes… but the Avon’s superior dry thrust to both ATAR and J79 would mean that you would be using it less often, and for shorter periods.
Spey probably offered a better dry thrust especially it’s sfc.
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The Avon afterburner was too inefficient and the MTBF favored the J79. Let’s not forget the high powered Avon versions were considerably longer and heavier. Sure thrust favored the Avon, but economics favored J79.
They were probably better off integrating F135 into F/A-18 than spending huge sums basically redesigning the F/A-18 to be stealth. They may as well spread the engines out wider for an internal weapons bay even it it’s no better than F-35B sized, put the wings into a proper alignment, gave it a proper stealth nose, and just gave it larger internalized fuel tanks. Sounds like I’m describing J-31.

It seems silly to even entertain Boeing at this point in time. I’d rather have the effort go into F-35C.
I would have been just as happy with a J79-powered Saab Draken derivative as the basic jet for NATO in the early 60’s.
Yes, the Mirage III powered by a J79 turbojet and armed with Sidewinders would have been a better jet than the F-104, especially if it had canard wings like the Dassault Milan. You never know, they may have even thought about giving it a larger nose for a pretty good radar set, too.
not phond phriends phlying the phantastic phantom phighter?
Too many ph’s. It sounded too phlakey even for a phool like me.
Sergei Bogdan is hilarious.
I cannot believe a flight of four MiG-31 wouldn’t outclass four Su-35 when it comes to Air Superiority. The Foxhounds are geared for coordinated search and track, can throw the largest and deadliest missiles in the RuAF inventory, and can cover more ground than the Su-35. Clearly the Su-35 is the better all around platform, but no way can it be superior in Air Superiority.
In all fairness you should separate MiG-15 and MiG-17. They are different animals.
MiG-21 should be broken down by types, because there is a major difference between variants and manufacturers.
Same could be said of most aircraft. If a variant used a unique power plant then it’s a different animal. If it had a different generation of radar then it’s a different animal. Etc. Etc.
Pharewell to our phond friends flying the phantastic Phantom phighters.
100 cluster bombs could have reeked havoc with the balance of land forces in that conflict. Both sides lacked adequate mobility, too. Neither side had comprehensive aerial footage. Neither side had adequate counter artillery. What Iraq lacked in bodies they compensated with in field engineering. What Iran lacked in tech they made up in quantity…
Considering the future of land warfare is moving towards precision fire, I think the tanks will wear out long before the ATGWs.
You will see warfare on the global scale within the next 20 years if the trends continue. You need to look at assets for strengths and weaknesses, use the proper asset in the proper situation. If a DC-3 is unobstructed as a bomb truck and the time schedule permits its use it probably can deliver the goods more cost-effective than an F-16. If resistance is expected in the form of Su-35 then an F-22A is probably the better route. Justify the costs put the whole experience into perspective.
It would be a lot easier choice for Hawk if it used a SNECMA engine, used French avionics, was carrier capable for dual use training like the T-45, and was license built in a swing deal to promote Rafale exports.