I wonder what has happened about the Sutton Harbors Dash 8?
To be honest this is just another reason why Exeter and Plymouth should be closed for an airport on the South Hams. Devon and Cornwall are pretty sparsely populated areas yet rely so heavily on their airlinks because of the South West’s poor communications. If an airport was built there then at least you could concentrate two areas of traffic on to one airport increasing passenger numbers and making air services more viable.
DUB-SNN-LAX in an Aer Lingus A330 is my favourite. For short hops just a quick flight from Nice to Paris is pretty good especially across the Alps.
Sorry to continue on this subject but the air wars continue.
Today Le Cocq’s filed an application to fly JER-GCI on inter island- the big Aurigny monopoly. They say there is room considering the Aurigny cutbacks.
I think there is a bit of a mess with the JetMagic ERJ 145. Problems with the AOC being issued.
On the ERJ topic. Bmi began Edinburgh-Jersey flights today on a daily basis with the ERJ 145. A route encouraged by Scottish and Jersey authorities.
Good old reliable BA Citiexpress :rolleyes: Is Citiexpress a European or domestic operation now, I just don’t know anymore?
Easy enough for people to shrug these routes but do you know how vital they are to a local economy, tourism and the well being of the counties people? No and nor does BA. It would seem though naturally BA do not give a damn, it is all high profit routes.
Anyway, Citiexpress is such a disgrace. They take these profitable companies Brymon, Cityflyer, Manx and BRAL who have a regional cost basis, regional aircraft and routes with a regional outlook and turn them into one mismanaged and unprofitable operation where they are losing money, base cuts and job losses. Brymon used to do very good on that route, such a shame now to see it go.
It is another nail in the coffin for regional airlinks. Hopefully Air Wales could take it over though it is hardly beneficial for connections if they routed into LCY. Could be good news for Flybe. at Exeter.
Some of us were lucky to get in before they started charging you. I joined about a year ago just before they charged you. I had to email A.net telling them why I would be of value. Load of agrovation just to join a discussion board. Geezz
Just recieved a copy of Friday’s Jersey Evening Post. Actually quite good to see the other perspective on the matter. Comparison between the Guernsey Press and Star’s and The JEP’s perspectives:
Guernsey;
Locally-based aviation expert and journalist Geoff Jones described it as deplorable.
He said it was the latest in a string of sad and very expensive decisions made by the States.
‘I’m amazed at the 38-to-2 vote in favour,’ he said.
Deregulation of civil aviation started in the United States in 1978 and about five years ago in Europe.
‘There are very few parts of the world these days where it is regulated – in other words, where the state owns the airline,’ he said.
Olympic Airlines in Greece is state-owned, he said, but the Greek government was trying desperately to get rid of it due to the financial burden.
‘Whether it’s for securing slots or whatever it is, I think it’s a terribly retrograde step, particularly in today’s air transport industry.’
People were told that Guernsey would lose the Gatwick slots, but Flybe already had slots.
‘I believe there are only four, or perhaps five, slots that we have secured. Flybe has far more slots than that and they are still available.’
EasyJet had expanded its Gatwick operation phenomenally over the last two years by acquiring its own slots.
‘We should have been allowed to operate in a free-market economy and, if we lost the slots by losing British Airways, so be it. But I don’t think we’re being told the truth. If we were to operate in a free-market economy and an airline wanted to operate into Gatwick again in the future, then I think we could get the slots back.’
He said that airlines that were not run by the States were now in a difficult and embarrassing situation.
It was a myth to think that the States would not interfere with the company. There had to be interference as the States was now the majority shareholder.
‘The sooner the States divest themselves of a majority shareholding in Aurigny, the better. But whether they can do that remains to be seen.’
He said the money should have been spent on subsidising the island’s air services.
Jersey;
The States of Guernsey are to be congradulated on takingg decisive action to protect their lifeline slots at Gatwick through the purchase of Aurigny, the beneficiary of British Airways’ sudden withdrawal from services to their island.
Much criticism has been levelled at Guernsey politicians for ‘putting the clock back’ on government ownership of airlines. Yet the United States at this very moment arrangements are being made to bail out major national carriers to protect them from collapse in an exercise which more or less amounts to nationalisation.
We have to face the fact that the aviation industry is endemically highly volatile. Having an island economy heavily dependent on such an unstable transport medium, as Guernsey and Jersey are, both as finance centres and tourism destinations, is bound to produce major tensions. All this compounded when the UK is facing a capacity crisis, particularly at London airports.
There is much to talk of protecting slots for the Channel Islands’ air services, but little evidence of real political progress. In these circumstances, the members of the States of Guernsey have acted in a way that surely deserves admiration. It may entail risk, but probably much less risk than inaction.
If only British Airways had offered Aurigny our Heathrow slots.
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Two different opinions there.
Generally the people of Guernsey have taken it as a bad idea. They are worried about a monopoly and high prices. Their sympathies lie with Le Cocq’s and Flybe.
Better that they did not proceed with it rather than finding out the hard way that these routes would not make a profit. Seems like Virgin Express can’t make their mind up about expansion, Shannon closed, Cologne/Bonn, Rome, Stansted etc never became anything much. Can add Orly now.
I don’t think thats the one A330C is thinking of Kabir. I know the one you mean-“Aria” by Yanni.
It is Thunderclap Newman- “Something in the air”
Proffesional Pilots rumour network? Very good for “insider” news but I agree with what Wysiwyg says about it.
Interesting news. I thought it was a BA ATR 72 considering all the things to do with the leasing I heard and also about the BA crew. Anyway, good to hear about them getting their own ATR. The Manchester and Stansted routes will be BAe 146s in the summer weekends so there must be room for the extra capacity.
I believe there is also talk of them re-establishing long haul flights once again.
They have moved to Domodedovo sorry.
Yes they can compete with Aeroflot as it is up to western standards, which the management like to promote and take very seriously. It is choosen by many over Aeroflot to the CIS, Europe and on domestic.
Anyway, it was set up in the first place as a competitor.
Based Moscow Sheremetyevo, formed in 1991 as one of the first private owned company in Russia and the first private airline. Used to fly transatlantic with 757 and DC-10s, however was dropped due to the economic conditions in Russia. Now flies routes in Europe, Russia and the CIS States with the 737-700s and a few other Russian aircraft.
Though I would not be certain, your best chance of flying the BAe 146 would be on some of Ryanair’s French destinations such as Bergerac and Brest.