Perhaps someone can answer something I can remember from the BEA days of the Argosy.
When the later 200srs variants were delivered new to the airline they came with the latest, higher power, version of the dart which did wonders for the performance.
Unfortunately BEA took all these new engines off and fitted them to some of the Viscounts, the Argosies then got the old Viscount hand me downs. I dont know why other than that passengers were more valued than freight perhaps.
Richard
Isnt the aircraft in the picture a Beech B-17 Staggerwing, which would make it rather rarer than the D-17.
The obvious differences being the ailerons on the lower wings, moved to upper on the D-17 and aerodynamic balances on the elevator rather than weights on the D-17. Other changes were the windscreen and the fuselage was shorter on the B.
Richard
A Westland Whirlwind(helicopter) for sale, the owner seems unsure about what he has got though and who made it.
Richard
Odd, apparently that is the possible fate of Odihams’ Bessonau!?
Whats happening to the Odiham hangar, where is the gliding club going. Only interested as about 20 years ago I spent many ‘happy’ hours lacing on new sheets of rubberised fabric cladding.
Richard
Ozplane
I know that the fuselage was crushed in the unfortunate crash but the wings/fin/rudder/engines all looked fairly undamaged.
As the Biffo is a type that made a substantial contribution to UK aviation history post WW2 I always felt it should be represented in a museum somewhere, most probably Filton.
So would it not be possible to get a fuselage shipped from NZ/Canada/Oz to build a composite. The last airworthy one was to be flown to the UK at one point but fuel costs killed the plan. But a fuselage brought by sea would be far less expensive.
Perhaps some lottery money might be available, no perhaps not on second thoughts.
Richard
Steve
Are you sure the SE5a is a Savage Skywriting aircraft. I have read that the Polish Air Force had a couple and that one was flying in 1920.
What’s the nationality of the aother a/c in the group.
Richard
LL
I think noise levels are part of type approval these days and some of these documents are on the web, if not the CAA/FAA would have the data.
Some airfields that were MOD owned and operated, which subsequently have become redundant(or seen limited use) have had real trouble getting planning permission to allow continued civilian use.
Until the recent financial troubles old runways were a valued commodity just for the amount of agragate that could by produced by crushing them, an example being Greenham Common’s runways which became the Newbury bypass. But the logistics of then relaying a grass runway in place of the tarmac one might be enormous.
I wish you all the best.
Richard
I dont think its fair to label any particular type as bad, it wasnt the aircrafts fault. If blame has to be placed anywhere it should go to the specification writers who put together the impossible requirements that spawned some awfull results.
The disigners must have dispaired at what they were asked to do, I wonder how things would have been different without the constraints.
Richard
They might find theselves a bit short of space, in the blurb they say ‘As an education tool, an 82ft-long commercial airliner is a sure bet to take teaching to new heights’.
Except everywhere I look a 360 length is quoted as 70ft 10in, but thats modern education for you.
Richard
During BOAC days and carried on well into the post BEA/BOAC merger when it had become BA, extra pay was awarded within engineering for those doing ‘dirty’ jobs, usually toilet related but also involving fuel and oil. This was known as ‘Monkey Money’ from those earlier days when monkeys were carried, rotted the bottom out of the fuselage as well but thats a different story.
Sorry if this is leading off track so smack my wrists and its back to Yorks and Tudors please.
Ricard
It’s not the count, exactly, it’s the number of specialised pieces requiring significant work. Perhaps I should’ve been clearer.
In what way could a the flexibility be an essential good thing?
I accept the point regarding specialised pieces that probably each required a jig or tool to make, I know it was said that the Wellington could be repaired easily using ready made sections but that alone has a logistics issue.
And as for airframe flexibility, some aircraft were designed to be flexible for example the Boeng B47/B52/707 line. I always believed it allows lower structural weight.
Richard
Disadvantages
– Took excessive time to tool up for, and created complex aircraft with high number of parts
– Gave a flexible airframe
What was the parts count compared to say a Manchester?
And why is a flexible airframe a disadvantage?
Richard
As an enthusiast of anything piston powered the thought of a film bases around the Berlin Airlift is fantastic, but how many others out there even know of it happening, or care for that matter.
Didnt the two DC4’s at North Weald come to the UK for a film to be made based on the toffee bomber events.
It would be possible to make a good showing of suitable aircraft using what we have ie, DC3, DC4, Lancaster(painted to look like a lancastrian), and the C97 run by the Berlin Airlift Historical Foundation. http://www.spiritoffreedom.org/
Richard
Could it be a Focke-Achgelis Fa 223, although the purpose of the tractor seats is a puzzle, they seem to be attached to the undercarriage cross beam. The rotor drive shaft is going out of the top left corner of the picture.
See link to the French version http://www.eads.com/xml/content/OF00000000400005/3/29/623293.jpg
Richard
Thanks for the reminder. Something to look foreward to on the box, an unusual event.
Richard