Greatbottom Flash(had to pause after writing that while I imagined how it got its name)is part of the Basingstoke Canal which runs from Basingstoke passed Odiham,Fleet,Aldershot,Farnborough and on towards Woking. I believe it joint the Thames eventually.
The Flash is a widened section of the canal, like a large pond. I assume it was a mooring and turning area for the working boats from the days when the canal was in use.
I always assumed the hulls had been put into the canal for trials of durability or were just surplus and used as house boats.
As JDK says the bombs used in the film were weighted but I thought with plaster rather than concrete, original ones were so light they were all wobbly as they fell, filled with plaster they performed more realistically.
It was all written up in Warbirds Worldwide at the time as others have said, must try and find it.
G-PSID was owned by Doug Arnold at the time of filming I think.
Janie
Sorry should have said in original post, source is ‘Those Fabulous Flying Years’ an Air Britain Publication, an excellent book.
Does say they operated on the Withernsea/Yorkshire coast.
Have seen similar info in another book I have but unable to find it at the moment,in middle of house move.
That aircraft is G-EBCB of Kingwell & Jones Flying services of Alloa and later Turnhouse. Company formed in 1921 with this and one other 504 G-EADH. BCB was destroyed by gales Nov 28.
An addition to the 504 list should be 504L G-EASD that Tony Ditheridge had stored at Moat Farm. Although put together by Eastbourne Aviation in 1920 I am sure it was from wartime production surplus components.
Good film, always worried me using a Widgeon though, should have been a Sikorsky R4 perhaps. Never mind Kate Nelligan helped me forget the innacuracies.
The airfield scenes were filmed at Blackbushe with a new section of fence being erected for the occasion, real Dack but rest were fake, but thats part of the story.
Pathfinder. Its pretty definate that this is a PZL P23 Karas, the dark line on the wing tip you identify is one of the key features, its a hand hold. The others are the unusual tail skid, aileron shape and trim tab, remains of rear cockpit surround and wing root fairing.
This picture does raise some more questions though.
1. The writing on the reverse says that it is British and at Dinant. Could this be a mis spelling of Diamant which is in Poland, although why anyone would mistake it for British a/c there.
2. Did any Karas escape the German advance and head to France. Seems very unlikely and with only 750 mile range almost impossible I would think.
3. JDK says the picture he has is captioned “Unidentified Karas shot down during the September 1939 war. In the foreground is an aircrew body.” Does the cross mark where they buried the crew. if so why do it amongs the wreckage.
4. Is that evidence of a serial number on the fuselage just in front of the tail, or just burnt off paint.
Im’e pretty sure its a Polish PZL P23 Karas. All the bits fit but its certainly not British, and other than prototypes visiting France prior to WW2 wasnt involved in combat there.
Some Rover gas turbine air start units were being auctioned on E bay a couple of months ago, these were self contained man liftable items. I suspect they were the same things as APU’s just packaged differently.
Might be worth looking at the government surplus traders.
If someone is funding it then whoopee———-as long as the engine turns the right way, sounds fantastic and was made by Bristol.
Otherwise I would like to see them add a Gannet or Piston Whirlwind.
The Iraqi Air Force had two airworthy Gladiators up to 1949 at Mosul. Hope someone is keeping an eye out for any remains that might still exist.
Liberators, especially when heavily laden with fuel and bombs, had a tendancy for the fuselage to fracture at a point just in front of the mainplane, at the upper turret aperture, usually triggered by nose undercarriage problems or running into soft ground. It often only resulted in a fractured fuselage but sometimes depending on speed, weight and nature of the surface the whole front fuselage could be crushed, as in the picture.
I have seen photo,s of trials by Consolidated to come up with a fix which meant simulating the failure by pulling on the fuselage with cables but I think nothing was done to resolve it.
This was one major benefit the B17, with its low wing and exposed main whhels, had over the B24, which was also very bad in a belly landing when the fuselage again would collapse under the weight of the wing. And to top it all it didnt behave well in a ditching, depite its flying boat hull appearance.
I have always loved the Liberator in preference to the B17 but its easy to have that view now, I bet the people who flew them in anger had other thoughts. Very brave men.
In the book of Charles E Brown photographs ‘Camera Above The Clouds’ page 130 has a fantastic air to air of the prototype Victor taken on 10/7/53.
The fuselage is certainly very black with red cheat line, all the rest of the airframe is silver.
Strange that such a stunning airframe/colourscheme combination has not been published more often.
K107 was the prototype Vickers Vimy Commercial, first flight 13 April 1919, then became G-EAAV.
This aircraft was used on an attempt on the Cairo to Cape Town record with a prize of £10,000 from the Daily Mail. Flown by Vickers pilots S,Cockerell and F.C.G Broome it crashed at Tabora, Tanganyika on 27 Feb 1920.
Thanks stringbag. With pictures like that I can hear a taxying Centauras in my head, without even trying.
Incidentally I went to a lecture by John Bradshaw many years ago about his search for a decent Sea Fury/Fury. Very enlightening with stories of some that he looked at with wear in the wing fold/locking mechanism, you could move the wing tip up and down.