Palestinian Authority Mi-17
Originally Posted by Arthur
Yen The? I never heard of that name, but the Su-27s are based at Phan Rang. Is Yen The perhaps a new name for that base? It is interesting to see the MiG-21s on the flightline, since those are NOT based at Phan Rang, which houses the Vietnamese Sukhoi (22+27 and probably 30) fleet in the 370 Regiment.
Hi Arthur,
concerning the the Su-27…I forgot to mention that the aircraft is paying a visit to another airbase which houses the MiG-21s, the Su-27s often pay visits to other airbases for military exercises and a friend of mine in Hanoi thought he once saw a -27 landed at Noi Bai, and later in the day that very Sukhoi appeared on local T.V news.
Awesome!!
Vietnamese Su-27UB with rocket pods.
Caption: The air force’s fighter regiment at Yen The is always ready to fight.
PhAF T-28 trojan
Iraqi An-24 and VPAF Su-22
Ok…there is alot of talks about poppy on this thread, and I think if the Karzai government put more of an effort in fighting the poppy traders then it would be a whole lot easier for the central government to send their forces elsewhere.
Big fancy and shmancy fighter planes won’t get Afghanistan anywhere with recontruction, and it will only create more fighting if one is started, so just as I said earlier, Afghanistan should seek for a reconnaisance capability similar to that of Iraq, but not fighter planes.
Hey…nice PC-7…
I think the A-10 and Apaches is too advance for the outdated Afghans, they should seek for capabilities similar to that of Iraq, try to get light recon aircraft and a few heavy aircraft. And I also agree with GarryB, instead of spending heaps on the military, this country should use the money for the infrustructure.
Originally posted by Sens
The one who offer/sells the story and gets the publicity from that.
Damn… why didn’t I think of that?
See the first reply.
Oops..my bad
how about Brunei?
Originally posted by Ole
Any well operating and effective Air Force (and the pilots flying it) would only use equipment which has a maintenance record. Just to pick up equipment and fly is strictly in an emergency. I don’t think we should let a new Iraqi AF fly wrecks, semi-wrecks or unserviced equipment.
Ole
What I’m trying to say is, the Americans should give the Saddam-era equipment full refurbishment and put them into service, and not flying secon-hand crap, wrecks, semi-wrecks or unserviced equipment. Do you understand what I’m trying to say?
If the claims are fake, then who benefit from this lie?
Originally posted by Lawndart
They can’t grumble at the price, however, I would have thought it would have been better for the US to source some second hand Mi-8/Mi-17’s for the Iraqi Airforce since that’s a type they have direct experience of working with,unless they’re replacing the Saddam era personnel with a fresh manpower base,then it becomes a much different problem, but I still think that they should try to keep their fleet to the lowest number of types possible at the ‘mo in order to simplify training and logistics etc….
Cheers.
Edit: By the way,would anyone know if anything of the Saddam era Iraqi Air Force has survived to re-enter service in the force’s latest incarnation ?
Well…most aircraft are in pretty bad conditions after the invasion in 2003, but I’ve seen pictures of Saddam-era Mi-8/17s still intact, and that is borthering me because the US the dosen’t seem to have the interest of pressing them into service. I think if the Americans give those choppers a little make over then the Mi-17s would be good as new, instead of giving Iraq second-hand crap when more capable stuff are there.
Originally posted by plawolf
what are you talking about? at the start of the korean war, NK had far better weapons then SK because the russians gave/left those weapons to kim’s daddy. whatever ‘industrial’ base NK might have had before the conflict was flattened by US carpet bombing. it was said during the war, an american bomber crew resorted to dropping their whole payload on a lone NK soilder on a moterbick because there was nothing else left to bomb. and that kind of bombing continued right to the end of the conflict.becase the chinese didnt have the ability to conduct bombing, SK was able to be gradually rebuilt after the NK forces were driven back, and that development continued throughout the rest of the war without interruption.
after the war, SK continued to get vast sums of money and resources from the west, but NK didnt get that much since both china and russia didnt exactly have much to spear themsevles.
as for kim, well i think his daddy was far too busy keeping himself in power and making himself to be some kind of god to properly teach his son. not that he himself had much worth teaching either, so its probably just as well.
sorry then…maybe you should read what Arthur has said after you…