Given than the SM-1 launcher has been disabled I’d think it would be “not much”. They’d be far better off buying something more capable from someone else as anything else the US could sell them would be too big.

Some suggest only the launcher arm and the STIR were removed, with the remainder in place. If so, these could easily be reinstalled and combat capability fully restored.

OHP would give Ukrainians the same ships as Turkey and Poland. They are NATO standard. Bulgaria got some Belgian frigates, Romania some British frigates. Georgia, Estonia, Latvia and Lithouania too have received ex-NATO ships. Moldova doesn’t have a navy. Get the picture?

I’ve talked to some FFG sailors recently, apparently only the launcher arm was removed, the internal equipment is still there but in layup. The STIR equipment was removed but the platform and cabling is still in place. So it wouldn’t take that much effort to reinstall the launcher arm, the STIR and it’s associated electronics and then test it all.

Cheapest/safest option for PN would then be to just stick with SM-1MR and Harpoon: OHP as-is is improvement over ex-RN Tye 21s and if paired up with F22P they can have 2 SAM layers.

What’s the source of this news? I know about the Fire Scout trials, the RAN are looking very closely at the results- they even have observer status in this trial.

As for the OHP’s being better suited to ASW, that’s a bit of a joke really- these vessels were designed as a “General Purpose” ship, hence the wide range of weapons on it albeit in small numbers! I remember reloading the cans (torpedo tubes)- what a nightmare that was, we’d have to pull a fish up from the middle of the vessel, down the long corridor and out on to the flight deck, then move it down the sides to the tube that needed reloading and it never went smoothly!

Well, I’m sure the Spruance was better but we were talking performance relative to Type 21s and/or F22P

Just like their latest frigate, Yaroslav Mudry. That flucking thing is brand new, but it looks thirty years old.

Well duh, thats because the project 11540 program started in 1986. First of class Neustrashimy commissioned 1993. The second hull (Yaroslav Mudry) dates from 1990. It took 19 to finally complete. So while the latest frigate built, its an old design (from before 1986). Which don’t mean there’s nothing new on the drawing board….

I would plant a 5in mount where the Mk.13 launcher was……dump the 3in mount aft and replace that with a RAM launcher……

Interesting 😉
What would you do for antishipping capability?

The upgrades carried out on the Australian OHP’s are a less risky option now that it has been carried out 4 times, most of the problems in the upgrade have been sorted out and if it was carried out on further ships the upgrades would be more straight forward and less expensive then the Australian upgrades because of that.

True to an extent. However, I was looking at this from a least work, cost and risk point of view AS WELL AS starting with a ship from which Mk13 and STIR have been stripped (as is the case with USN Perry’s that are still in service with the USN – these are the future trasferrees). Which means not so much an UPGRADE of existing AAW capabilities (which is what the Aussie and Turkeish navies are looking for) as REINSTATING some meaningfull ASuW and AAW capabilities onto the Perry as they transfer from US to other nation’s naval service… (lest the OHP stays an ASW capable OPV)

Compared to the Aussie fit, it woulnd’t matter much if the single Mk41 installation in the location of the Mk13 as I proposed rather than further forward. The ships were already kitted for and compatible with Harpoon (after all, this was fired from Mk13), so unless associated consoles etc were removed, it would be a matter of installing and hooking up some launch racks. I doubt adding RAM or swapping out Phalanx for RAM requires much additional modification either. Likewise for the remorely operated 25mm cannon. Pretty low cost and risk free IMHO.

The P17 is intended as multi-role surface combatant. It is essentially an enlarged and much modified version of the Russian P1135.6 Talwar Class. In appearance and layout, the P17 is similar to the Talwar Class frigate forward but more like the Delhi Class destroyer aft.

And that would have looked similar to … todays F100 Alvaro de Bazan.