Warships IFR is a good publication for interviews with senior western officers and for photographs but not alot else. When it comes to reporting anything that is not European or American its accuracy is atrocious and its analysis is amongst the most bias you will see in any military themed publication. If you read ot for long enough you will come to believe that Navies are the most important armed service one could ever possibly imagine and that they should be responsible for everything but that all western navies are on the brink of becoming under funded under staffed river patrol fleets.;)
You mean to say that navies are NOT the most important armed service and NOT responsible for everything!?!? Shocking!
:p
Not impressed by the above analysis:
Many European navies have made a transition to fewer but more capable ships and there has been a shift from a predominanty Atlantic/ASW orientation to a more global one, involving provision of humanitarian assistance, overseas troop deployments and land attack. So, the emphasis is different, but navies are not considered less important.
Japan has had a significant fleet since WW2. China’s fleet, while modernizing rapidly, still largely relies consists of old(er) designs. Other Asian navies are taking greater responsibility for the defence of the sea lanes in their national territorial domains (Why are European navies expected to provide naval defences against the growing power of PLAN? That would only make sense in a situation where there are still colonial interests. Shouldn’t independent nations defend themselves?)
Didn’t originally have this mode, but tested back in May 2007 – so I guess its operational in this role.
Isn’t it the case that any SARH SAM could in principle be used for anti-ship (missile homes in on reflected radar emissions: just point the radar illuminator to a ship rather than to an aircraft). See Sea Sparrow and Standard missiles.
No, the Batch 1 and 2 where the shorter version and the batch 3 are wider and much longer and the flight decks are much larger on the Batch 3’s when compared to the rounded FD’s of the earlier batches. A T22 is a different beast altogether and was designed to have the space to operater much larger Helo’s such as the Sea King, which they did.;)
Interesting, never noticed! Closer examination of batch 3 does show a wider (add about 1m?) and more squared FD, although it is not immediately apparent (at least to me š how much longer the FD is. It seems similar to the differences in FD between batch 1 and later batches of Type 22.
Well Si,
in peace time they will be correct but as the T42’s have 2 very different flight deck sizes, Batch 3 have a much larger area and as the sea was smooth all the time during the war the Lynx tip toed on the edge of the after part of the deck, with their tail hanging over the sea. One aircraft was rolled as the fech and carry from other units bringing up weapons for the fighting rolled aircraft to use. I may be a little out on having the head to toa and across deck (front of hanger) at the same time, but the deck was very busy as the FDO would vouch. :diablo:
Shipmate,
I could be wrong but I’ve never heard of different batches of Type 42s having different flight deck sizes. Do seem to recall this about the Type 22 however. Any chance you meant Type 22?
Wanshan commented: “whether Japan will accept basing a nuclear powered carrier on her sovereign territory.”
Quite a while ago, Japan agreed to allow a CVN to replace Kitty Hawk in Yokosuka.
http://www.navycompass.com/news/newsview.asp?c=218409
“Friday, June 29, 2007
Adm. Robert Willard, commander, U.S. Pacific Fleet discussed the shift of emphasis from the Atlantic to the Pacific Fleet and the Navy’s evolving maritime strategy during a breakfast meeting in San Diego June 21.
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“Willard spoke specifically about Japan, indicating he lived there on two previous occasions and that he appreciates the friendship that exists between the two nations, and the close nature of the relationship between the two navies.He also said he appreciated Japan’s willingness to serve as the homeport of a U.S. Navy nuclear-powered aircraft carrier beginning next year.
“There are a lot of issues between the U.S. and Japan, not the least of which is the USS George Washington (CVN 73), the nuclear-powered carrier is headed to Japan next year; the Japanese have been gracious enough to be willing to host,” Willard said.”
Hey, great you found that, I was wondering about it. Thanks!
Interesting shots, but real balls comes from sneaking close enough to take photos of the hull, screw, rudder and sonar gear.
Unicorn
These shots were taken by a different sub at a different time, in all likelihood not even during an exercise. It’s just a periscope shot of a carrier, serving as illustration.
Why one would want to be taking periscope shots of screws and rudder is a mystery to me, particularly given the range of available torpedoes.
I dont think the USNs CVNs carry their own sonar…
The article is absolute BS. It doesn’t even cite any sources. Why would anyone want a 50 year old junk. Isn’t they 20-25 year old gorky given IN enough problems?
This particular piece of 50 year old junk is some of the best maintained and powerfull pieces of junk afloat in the world. Other than that, I fully agree that the article is BS: KH is and will not be for sale. Whether or not she or Kennedy (both conventionally powered) would return to service depends on whether Japan will accept basing a nuclear powered carrier on her sovereign territory.
September 05, 2007 Edition 2
Louis Oelofse
A LONE South African submarine left some North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Nato) commanders with red faces yesterday as it “sank” all the ships of the Nato Maritime Group engaged in exercises with the SA Navy off the Cape coast.
The S101 – or the SAS Manthatisi – not only evaded detection by a joint Nato and SA Navy search party, consisting of several ships combing the search area with radar and sonar; it also “sank” all the ships taking part in the exercise.
Several times during the exercise, that lasted throughout Monday night and yesterday morning, a red square lit up the screens where the surface ships thought the submarine was, but it remained elusive.
This gave Defence Minister Mosiuoa Lekota something to brag about when he landed on the SAS Amatola yesterday to speak to the media.
“To be able to frustrate detection by Nato nations is no mean achievement, it speaks of the excellence of the equipment we acquired for this purpose,” Lekota said.
And while this left one of the world’s strongest military alliances frustrated, it was also a sign that the group had a capable partner in Africa, Lekota said.
“With sustained interoperatability with foreign forces such as Nato we are well positioned to respond to any unforeseen circumstances that may confront either ourselves or other regions,” he said.
Lekota was quite clear that a working relationship with Nato was desired. “They have a partner of reliable capability because we are forging working relations here,” he said.
These sentiments were echoed by the commander of the Nato maritime group, Rear Admiral Michael Mahon.
“I can’t speak for what the future will hold but certainly this was valuable. Africa is a strategic continent. The freedom of the seas, energy, security, they are all critical issue to Nato countries,” he said.
It’s a well know fact that SSKs are difficult to stop. This is certainly not the first exercise to suggest that.
23 Feb – 2 Mar 1999: Walrus (2) participates, among other NATO navies and the Brazilian navy, in the exercise JTFEX / TMDI99.
JTFEX / TMDI99 stands for Joint Task Force Exercise / Theatre Missile Defence Initiative 1999. The exercise is held in the Caribbean and on the US main land and has 27000 participants, of which 15000 naval participants. This exercise is the biggest gathering of forces since the Gulf-war, is held from 1 Feb to 4 Mar 1999.
The T-shirt that was designed by the Walrus (2) crew to celebrate the ‘sinking’ of US aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt.
During this exercise the Walrus (2) penetrates the US screen and ‘sinks’ many ships, including the US aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71. The submarine launches two attacks and manages to sneak away. To celebrate the sinking the crew designed a special T-shirt. Other ships that are sunk by the Walrus (2) during this exercise are: USS Boise SSN-764, Ro?m DDG-70, R? DDG-61, Ville De Quebec FFH/FFG-332, Stephen W. Grooves FFG-29, Holstein F-216, Vella Gulf CG-55, Mount Whitney LCC-20.
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_walrus2.htm

Joint Support Ships for the German navy
There is a consideration of the German navy, which emerged in the past years always again to use : A ship, with which troops are regarded ready lake, outside by territorial waters, as an employment. A ship that with its communicationses the guidance of an operation can support. A ship, which is sent flexibly there, where the German Federal Armed Forces are to stand into the international employment in a coastal country ready.
Before the spoke of the General Naumann, if the speech came on this virtual ship, designated after the general inspector at that time and later chairman of the NATO military committee. From this plans however nothing became. Into the 1990-er years was called the project Einsatztruppenunterstützungsschif (ETrUS) and failed like so much because of the missing money. The utterance of an admiral, it is not unforgotten has anything against it if the army orders such a ship – and the navy it then operates.
Now there is a new approach, and that has the armed forces-common beginning already in the name: Joint support Ship is called the new project, naval inspector Wolfgang Nolting to the German Federal Armed Forces plan 2009 to already take up left. The new ships are to fulfill among other things the demand after a secured military sea-deployment capability.
As it is right itself, also all this is embedded into a concept that the naval inspector in a name article in the magazine describes European security: The concept is called “basis sea”, a conceptional beginning for development the lake, in order own forces in the context of armed forces-common operations over and of lake time-fairly, flexibly, to a large extent independently shifts, holds ready, leads, protects and to support to be able.
Navy will gets third Fleet Support Ship
So that it does not come starting from 2010 no more to these bottlenecks, the navy is to get now as fast as possible a third Fleet Support Ship of employments. The Ministry of Defense took up this project to the budgetary planning for 2008.
Thus the new building could already come 2010 in full swing. The ship is to become a sister the 2002 activated servicers āBerlinā and āFrankfurt/Mainā. The 200 million euro expensive new building is to displace 174 meters long and approximately 20200 tons. The working group Flensburger shipbuilding company and Lürssen, which built also the two first servicers in Flensburg and chess rope village, has good chances on the order.
These clearly are machine translated German texts. Mind putting links to the original articles? (I read German)
Absalon cheap?
The Patrol Ship (Frigate) derivative of the Flexible Support Ship (Absalon Class Support Ship) for the Royal Danish Navy (RDN):
Three Danish shipyards (Oerskov Steel Shipyard, Odense Steel Shipyard (Lindoe Yard), and Danyard Aalborg Shipyard) were selected to submit detailed designs and prices by May 2001. Danyard Aalborg Shipyard declined to bid on this program. Tenders were returned in late June 2001, however, both were above the set price ceiling of US$110M (hull, mechanical, and electrical systems only). Of note, the US$110M does not include the weapon and equipment outfit. On 22 June 2006, The Danish Ministry of Defense (MOD) announced the approval of funding for the three-ship class of the Patrol Ship Program (frigate). A total of DKR4.7B (US$800M) was approved for the shipās construction as well as most of the equipment. The Patrol Ship variant will probably cost an estimated US$267M for each vessel, which includes the entire package.
But that doesn’t include a lot of weapons (much taken from older/other ships)
That’s a satellite TV aerial, donated by Stupino municipality. The lattice structures are Spektr-F laser emission warning system.
Thank you, sir! Do you also happen to know what that large box-like structure is that’s behind the mainmast on the ship below?

Swedish navy mothballs largest ship
The Swedish navy’s largest ship, HMS Carlskrona, is to be mothballed due to a lack of officers. A decision on whether to refit, sell or scrap the minelayer will be made later in the autumn.
The Carlskrona returned from its most recent long voyage in 2005. Since then, it has been kept in port most of the time. A maintenance crew of eight people has kept it in working order.
The 3rd Naval Warfare Flotilla in Karlskrona currently has 43 vacancies for officers. A number of officers resigned their commissions during the summer.
The commander of the flotilla has asked the navy’s top brass for permission to lay up HMS Carlskrona. This permission was granted, but it is unclear what will then happen to the ship. HMS Carlskrona was refitted in 2002 at a cost of 225 million kronor. The refit left the ship fit for active service until at least 2020.
What do they pay naval officers in Sweden?
Anyone knows what’s in the radome between the 2 rear AK-630 guns on the Tarantul class (pr. 12411) corvette R-101 (ex-STUPINETS).
Not sure it is a radome, could well be a satcom antenna. There’s some more interesting unknown lattice structures on that ship, behind that dome and between the ak630’s an main mast.
I see, but some a more like a wire than a hook.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0295.shtml
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-2012.html
