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  • in reply to: Denel AH-2A Rooivalk Attack Helicopter #2584078
    Wanshan
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    I always wondered how did they justify development of a completely new assault helicopter because of 12 machines..

    Maybe because at the time development started SAF had no other option but domestic development as no other nation would supply attack helicopters to South Africa.

    in reply to: Horizon vs. F100 #2062357
    Wanshan
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    If you look at the latest pictures of the T45 there is space in between the two existing rows of 3 for a further row of 3. This link and information has been posted here more times than I can count but here it is again.

    http://navy-matters.beedall.com/imagesbig/t45-Jun02-02.jpg

    Why thank you, sir. And from one of my favorite site :diablo:
    No need to be a sour puss.

    in reply to: Horizon vs. F100 #2062399
    Wanshan
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    72 cells … that’s 9 VLU’s, or 3 more than currently carried. Where would they go? Two immediately forward for the superstructure and another infront fo the present VLU farm? Both liturally and figuratively, 9 vlu seems an odd number. Only other example of uneven number of VLU is de Zeven Provincien class (LCF) with 5 vlu (and space/weight reserved for a 6th)

    in reply to: The tanker 'British Resolution'? #2062618
    Wanshan
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    British Resolution

    Built 1974, been broken up, but no date available.

    Listed as INACTIVE here: http://www.e-vrp.com/Vessels.asp?PlanNum=424&Orderby=Status,Vessel_name&PageSize=

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2062659
    Wanshan
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    The choice of the RN to continue their AAW-destroyer programme with a S-band configuration was chosen purely from defence-industrial reasons.

    2. In the start of the T45 programme it was intended that SAMPSON would deal with both surveillance as target acquisition/fire control. BAe always claimed, and still does, that it is perfectly capable of doing both jobs. But for some reason still the SMART-L was chosen to fill the gap of the LR surveillance.

    So SAMPSON was developed to be a generalist, but still a LRR was needed… So wouldn’t it be better to use a specialistic radar for target acquisition/fire control also??

    From Navy Matters:

    BAE Systems have also claimed that the SAMPSON eliminates the need for several separate systems, but this is rather an other simplification – and ignores that any system will (unfortunately) still have to abide by the rules of physics. Some tasks are difficult to combine. One such task is (long range) volume search. This takes a lot of radar resources, leaving little room for other tasks. Or, vice versa, combining volume search with other tasks results either in slow search rates or in low overall quality per task. The driving parameter in radar performance is time-on-target, or observation time per beam. There is no way around it.

    This is a the key reason why the Royal Navy has selected the S1850M Long Range Radar NEXT to SAMPSON on the Type 45. It is also the reason that NATO, in the NAAWS study, defined the preferred AAW system to consist of a complementary Volume Search Radar and MFR. This, as NATO pointed out, gives the added advantage that the two systems can use two different radar frequencies; one a good choice for long range search, the other a good choice for an MFR (which is especially nice, because in this area also physics makes both tasks difficult to combine).

    BAE Systems say that SAMPSON should be regarded as a long-range sensor, its software-programmable search range (depending on which surveillance domain and update rate is selected) extending out to “several 100s of kilometres” and being described by the company as “significantly more than the 150km-range of APAR” – a performance that is directly related also to the chosen frequency band (E/F-band for SAMPSON as opposed to I/J-band for APAR). In fact, BAE Systems maintains that on the Type 45 destroyer, the Alenia Marconi Systems/Signaal S 1850M long-range 3D radar that is designed to work in partnership with SAMPSON “really is superfluous and is not needed to perform the mission of the ship”. The company suggested that the reason the large volume search radar has been incorporated in PAAMS is “more of a historic nature, associated with work sharing issues” that were such a problem during the trilateral Project Horizon.

    in reply to: China to build 3 Aircraft Carriers #2062846
    Wanshan
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    Hmmm… What can I say… Russia? Or PR China?
    http://bbs.military.china.com/jsp/pub/viewpicture.jsp?picurl=http://bbsimages.military.china.com/1013/2006/2/11/13.jpg
    Those scafolds looks bamboo to me so who knows!!!

    And those red flags seem to have chinese characters

    in reply to: Italian STOVL Carrier – Cavour ? #2062885
    Wanshan
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    Sorry, but I don’ understand.
    The BPE has the same role (carrier of F35), then why Italians throw their money when they can do the same job with a cheaper ship as well as BPE?

    Just maintaining the capability.

    in reply to: Italian STOVL Carrier – Cavour ? #2062951
    Wanshan
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    “Spanish ship builder Navantia is rapidly progressing the construction of its new generation amphibious ship that will be considered by the [Australian] Federal Government as part of the $2 billion Amphibious Ships project….The two new amphibious ships to be built for the ADF will be used on missions such as combat operations, regional disaster relief, humanitarian aid, peacekeeping and peace monitoring, and assistance to policing or military operations.”
    http://www.navalassoc.org.au/Navy_Defence%20%20News%20MINDEF%20157_05%2021SEP05%20Construction%20underway%20on%20Amphibious%20Ship%20Project.htm
    http://www.faaaa.asn.au/news/stovl_march05.htm
    The implication is 1 billion Australian dollars per vessel, or about 0.62 billion Euro, or 0.74 US dollar
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    in reply to: The Phasing out of the S-3 Viking – A good or bad thing? #2063062
    Wanshan
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    The S-3 Viking is a far more complex aircraft than the old S-2 Tracker.

    Despite negligable acquistion cost, the operating costs of a S-3 would hardly be less than a regional airliner.

    Agree, but how many regional airliners are there that have an MPA variant with a weapons bay and a similar ASW/EW suite AND that could fit into a hardened shelter?

    in reply to: P17 and P17A #2063094
    Wanshan
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    P17s building in Mumbai: INS Shivalik in in the water, INS Satpura in dry dock, and INS Sahyadri still on the slipway.

    From Google Earth. Pics must have been taken between Jun, 2004 (Satpura launched) and May 27, 2005 (Sahydri launched)

    in reply to: Italian STOVL Carrier – Cavour ? #2063096
    Wanshan
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    What about Cavour?

    What springs to mind is what the USN used to do with fleet oiler tankers: jumboize (cut and plug)?

    in reply to: Italian STOVL Carrier – Cavour ? #2063163
    Wanshan
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    That is probably why Spain is taking the wait-and-see approach. The UK are building large enough carriers to rebuild them. Only Italy would be in real trouble.

    But they’ll be able to build bigger if need be, capitalizing on their involvement and experience with India’s new ADS (40,000 tons – est. full load ).

    in reply to: PLAN Thread (Pics, news, speculations…everything) – 2 #2063166
    Wanshan
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    SOC, can you help me here? You seem to know more about the S-300 systems best.

    What do you think of this picture? Does it look familiar to you?

    Got this from Sinodefenceforum.

    The snow is a dead give away. Here’s the original (taken on board Pjotr Veliky)
    http://news.ttvnol.com/uploaded/lekien/rif_04.jpg

    This one’s from MAKS 2003 for comparison
    http://pvo.guns.ru/images/expo/maks2003/said/s12.JPG

    in reply to: P17 and P17A #2063331
    Wanshan
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    You guys are nuts, Austin could be right in the way he said “something resembling”. Probably a version a LOT smaller than the one pictured. The ship carrying it is Kerch, a 9,000t 173m long cruiser of the Kara class. These babies are huge, and still that radar is too big for that ship, you can imagine what it would be mounted on a Shivalik… Not a good idea. Shivalik will most likely be a lot lower too, so the use of such a huge radar would decline.

    Fregat is good enough as it gives enough range and targets for the AA weapons planned for Shivalik.

    It could use that radar but with an antenna that has half the height of the one on Kerch (E or ET2 version?). This is a very real possibility that was published in Military Parade before it went pw-protected.
    http://www.milparade.com/catalog/pdf/572.pdf

    The first Type 17 INS Shivalik is due to be commissioned next year or latest by 2008.

    in reply to: Type 45 vs. F124 #2063333
    Wanshan
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    You seem to be confused again. I would suggest that the T45 and the F100 are relatively closely matched but that the T45’s ability to take future upgrades gives it the edge (and possibly the sampson radar as well), but both are far better ships than the F124.

    If you consider how NFR went, Type 45 probably has more lineage with Franco/Italian Horizon program and F100 more with F124 and LCF.

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