German / Switzerland 35 mm/1000 KDG Millennium GDM-008

Lockheed Martin is the US licensee to Oerlikon Contraves for sale and manufacture of the gun systems. Oerlikon Contraves is part of Rheinmetall DeTec, an established military products company.

“May 4, 2005 The U.S. Navy has completed initial testing of Lockheed Martin’s Millennium Gun as part of its effort to validate and qualify new naval cannon technology for fleet self protection.”
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“Sea SLICE Tests 21st Century Naval Technology (Sept 2002)

The Navy part of Millennium Challenge 2002 is Fleet Battle Experiment – Juliet, involving Lockheed Martin’s Naval Electronics and Surveillance Systems Group (Clearwater, FL). A large part of FBE-J is a test of the Sea SLICE advanced technical demonstrator, a unique prototype combat vessel. Sea SLICE is a high-speed catamaran-type hull designed to carry modular, mission-specific war-fighting packages that address the specific areas of mine countermeasures, anti-submarine warfare, force protection, and time-critical targeting. The 106-foot Sea SLICE prototype is diesel-electric powered, running two variable-pitch propellers, and yielding a 400 NM range and top speed of 30 K. Weapons tested were to include the joint Lockheed Martin/Oerlikon Contraves 35mm Millenium Gun”

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Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) update

well attaching Kashin model at IMDS-2005 , hope u guys don mind 😉

Did anybody notice these are 2 very different Kashin-based models?

Both rather poor conceptually if you ask me. Personally, I don’t see why main SAMs couldn’t be retained forward and rear as well as helicopter gear rear while installing 4×2 decklaunched Brahmos in place of 4×1 Styx and Barak in place of some of the AK230/630 and standardize on AK630. Maybe plug in a 100mm gun like on Talwar to replace twin 76mm. Better all round fit. Seems silly to have a mix of DL an VL Brahmos.

seems like its the merikkans aim to get to know what will make up the MiG-29Ks pilots and their caliber … its nothing more than that!

Sure. The fact that there’s no one else around with anywhere near the same amount of experience with carrier operations and training naval aviators must be totally irrelevant. And, as Dan pointed out, deck availability surely play no role either.

With a box launcher yes…….a VLS would of course require extensive modification. Which, I doubt many would want to consider? On the otherhand the Sea Dart is a medium range surface to air missile much like the American Standard SM-1/2. So, the question is would any Navy want a large Destroyer without that capability??? Remember the T-42’s are large and complex ships………

Well, the AN is able to keep the slightly lighter but similar sized Meko360s up an running, so from that point of view it would be smart to strive for greater parts and weapons/systems commonality. Propulsion in both ship types is similar so main issue would seem to be weapons & radar systems. IMHO, 5-6 fully functional large GP frigates would seem preferable to 4 such ships plus 1-2 “expeditionary detroyers” without operational Sea Dart systems. Heck, even installing a russian Shtil SRL in place of Sea Dart and radar refit would be better than the current use. Used Mk13 launcher and SM1/2 could also work. An AAW ship w/o AAW is useless.

Hercules (HMS Sheffield class/Type 42) expeditionary destroyer
Displacement: 4,100 tons full load
Dimensions: 125 x 14.6 x 5.2 meters (410 x 48 x 17 feet)
Propulsion: 2 shafts; 2 RM-1A cruise gas turbines, 8,200 shp; 2 TM-3B boost gas turbines, 54,400 shp,

Almirante Brown class (MEKO 360H2 type) frigates
Displacement: 3,360 tons full load
Dimensions: 125.9 x 15 x 5.8 meters (413 x 49 x 19 feet)
Propulsion: 2 shafts; 2 RM-1C cruise gas turbines, 10,200 shp; 2 TM-3B boost gas turbines, 51,600 shp;

Well, I do see the AN getting a better AWD Destroyer anytime soon. So, upgrading and returning both Type-42’s would make sense………… :rolleyes:

What are the chances of pre-owned Type-42 becoming available in the near future, either directly to AN or to other navies (who might subsequently be able to provide AN with parts)

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They only got 1 – Hercules and from what I hear she is in pretty bad shape Shes not a regular warship any more probably due to the fact that the UK wont support her. Used mainly for transport

They are probably using one as a source of spare parts for the other, and Sea Dart likely not operational in either. Hence the use as transport.

Also, Korean Navy wanted to build 3 task force.
Most of Korean amateur specialist think it is not a good decision to build only 3 KDX-3 destroyer to against enemy. (You might able to imagine who’s going to be a biggest competitor for Korean Navy around in Northeast Asia. Additionally, North Korean Navy is not even able to get in the list 😀 )

For years the Japanse MSDF has gotten by quite well with just 4 Congo-class ships. Why should this not work for the smaller SK navy?

yeah its well know your point being? photos of it have already been posted

I responded to someone’s post saying it was PLANNED to install. On Rajput it IS installed.