So, this system isn’t necessarily a quieting mechanism, it’s more of a way to mask the exact signature of the boat. So that the ship class/name isn’t given away by the noise. Is that correct? I would assume that all those bubble breaking the surface would produce a lot of sound and in the process mask the machinery sound of the ship. In essence an acoustic version of ECM?

Can’t be too noisy other wise it degrades the ship’s sonar performance.

With and without: compare the wakes.

You want amazing…remember the F15 that lost half of its main wing…now that was amazing.

You mean this one, the damaged Israeli F-15.
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/100031.jpg

HEre’s another good one: Two U.S. F-15 fighter planes brushed each other over the sea near Okinawa on Oct. 5, 2004
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/photos2004/nn20041005a2a.jpg

An A-10 takes some damage but returns to base.
http://airpower.callihan.cc/images/Misc/A10/A10pow.jpg

5. Delhi’s carry 80 SAMs besides it is not really a AAW vessel.

Originally 2×24=48 Shtil (area defense) AFAIK. 32 Barak added but these could really qualify as part of CIWS. So, don;t think that’s a fair comparison.

Type 45 with 48 Aster and 2 21-round RAM units (in place of Phalanx) would have 90 missiles. Of course there’s a big difference between 48 Aster 30 and 48 Shtil …

Also, the main gun of the 4 ship Dutch Zeven Provincien class – not a particularly old or poor design – is an second hand Italian 127mm/54 calibre Oto Melara gun that used to be on the Canadian Iroquois ships. Afaik the only ship that will have 155mm in the near future is DD21

The T45 might be advanced but it’s definitely poorly armed.

1x 4.5inch gun, 48x SAM silos, 2x 20mm Phalanx, 2x 30mm cannon, a few torpedos and a single Lynx or Merlin helicopter.

I’m not impressed 🙁

The T45 is another typical UK MOD project where too much money has been spent on too little capability.

The T45 should have had this armament

1x 155mm gun, 96x silos for SAMs and land attack missiles, 4x CIWS and facilities for 2x helicopters.

So,
1. how many ships with a 155mm gun do you know?
2. you do realize Type 45 main prupose is AAW, not land attack (for which a derivative may be used)
3. how many ships of this type and size with 4 ciws do you know? What do the extra 2 add over and above the 2 presently envisioned?
4. do you realize that if a hangar can fit one EH 101 Merlin, it probably is large enough for 2 Lynx helicopters. (Given a choice between 2 Lynx and 1 Merlin, I’ld go for 1 Merlin.)
5. So long as it can put its missiles on target better than the opposition, 48 SAM is fine (the following classes all mount “just” 48 SAMs: IN Delhi, FRS Sovremenny, PLAN Types 52B, 52C and 51C)
6. You forgot to mention 2×4 Harpoon SSM

Was the weight issue solved by removing the Gabriel missiles and replacing the 76mm cannon with the 20mm CIWS or is there still a weight problem with this class?

“Shipbuilding costs are high in the United States. American shipyard workers are highly unionized, a factor which lowers productivity. Since American shipyards are fundimentally uncompetitive in terms of building costs, there really isn’t much of a shipbuilding industry anymore outside of Navy contracts.”

Israel is not the only country that receives money from the USA. I would think the US Coast guard or other countries like Greece, Turkey, Phillipines, Taiwan, etc. would be interested in this ship.

It was intended for a 76mm Oto and a Phalanx to be interchangeable in the eyes of the ship.

These ships are tailored to Israeli specs and relatively expensive. For example, they mount the Prairie-Masker noise reduction system, which even many larger surface combattants in major navies often don’t have. It has all gas turbine propulsion, usually only found on larger ships. It was one of the first ships with a secondary CIC. etc. These kinds of things greatly reduce export potential: most other navies looking to buy a vessel in this tonnage-class are looking for a much cheaper and more economic lighter equiped ship.

The Zwaardvis was capable for its time…

With the consecutive weapons test failures I can only conclude that either Taiwan haven’t been taking good care in maintnance or the torpedos are completely junk and needs to be replaced quick.

Now the question remains why American torps were not perchased?

Torpedo type: AEG SUT, dual purpose, wire-guided, active/passive
homing to 12 km (6.6 nm) at 35 kts, warhead 250 kg.
Manufactured under license in Indonesia.

Notes: Oct 2001: Under George Bush’s arms package proposal of 23 April 2001, the Mk 48 heavyweight torpedo and the UGM-84 submarine-launched Harpoon missiles were offered, and probably will be utilized during the class’ mid-life update.

http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/export/export_chienlung_hailung.htm

Saudi “Al Fahd” or US GVP “COLONEL” 8 X 8 AFV ?