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  • in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2012016
    Wanshan
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    Specialists from the Baltisky Shipyard and boiler design bureau are already at Sevmash shipyard, where the carrier will arrive in the next few weeks. Engineers are focusing on the boilers’ heat insulation as the core of the problem. Repairs could take from four months to a year depending on the damage to the insulation, he said.

    The worst case would be damage to the pipes carrying steam from the boilers, Shulyakovsky said. The pipes are made from a special steel which is no longer made in Russia. The steel used in Vikramaditya’s pipes was made in Ukraine.

    See:
    http://forum.keypublishing.com/showpost.php?p=1930857&postcount=853

    … plus, depending on the cooperation of Ukraine.

    in reply to: How does this one land? #2012062
    Wanshan
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    Basically, the later versions with smaller radome and antenna were able to have the same or better resolution by advances in antenna design & construction and improvements in signal-processing circuits (as well as in the components of those circuits).

    They just didn’t need that large set-up to do what they needed to.

    I expect that the fabric of the inflatable cover was also not as durable as required, the antenna folding mechanism was a problem (jamming in place, etc), and the added weight/volume of the inflating equipment, etc was detrimental to payload/range performance.

    HOw ’bout we tried this cover today, with modern fabrics. We still need something to put on the V22, EH01 and old S2 Trackers….

    in reply to: PLAN News Thread #4 #2012144
    Wanshan
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    If i remember correctly, only Ticos carry spq9B. Burkes have no such radar.

    052c is more akin to tico that way, as it does have a fast turning high resolution radar for horizon search, on top of its mast.

    type 45, in my opinion, has merged the roles of all of those radars (almost even the EW radar, as well, except in saturation attack situations where SAMPSON couldn’t track close targets and do long range scanning at the same time as efficiently as RN wanted. That is why that L-band radar is there.) in a single radar sitting high up. It is one of the best aspects of Type 45 design.

    The SPQ-9 is no a new radar and has received a number of upgrades over the years. It was originally built to be the main air defense radar on several American destroyer and cruiser classes, but over time it has been relegated to a secondary role on advanced air defense ships to fill in coverage gaps, or a slot on some amphibious ship classes as a relatively inexpensive, medium-capability main radar. Initially tested on the USS Norton Sound (AVM-1), SPQ-9A was deployed on Spruance-class destroyers, Kidd-class destroyers, Ticonderoga-class cruisers, Tarawa-class amphibious assault ships, Iowa-class battleships (1980s refit), California-class cruisers and Virginia-class cruisers.

    The SPQ-9A is being replaced on all Ticonderoga Class cruisers by the SPQ-9B, which provides twice the range and improved range resolution, as a part of the United States Navy’s “Cruiser Modernization” program, and becomes a part of the Mk-160 Mod 11 gun fire-control system (MK160 GFCS). Its mission is to serve as a primary fire control or backup radar that can detect and track low-flying, high-speed, small radar cross-section anti-ship missile targets in heavy clutter environments. That’s especially useful amidst waves, or close to shore.

    Still, the AN/SPQ-9B has known limitations. These were succinctly stated in a FY 2009 testing report for the San Antonio Class that cited: “Problems associated with SPS-48E and SPQ-9B radar performance against certain Anti-Ship Cruise Missile attack profiles.”

    In April 1212 Northrop Grumman Systems Corp. in Melville, NY received an $8.8 million contract modification for AN/SPQ-9B cooperative engagement capability (CEC) interface kits and antenna group upgrade kits. The AN/SPQ-9B compensates for known weaknesses in the S-band SPY-1 main radar on American destroyers and cruisers, and CEC creates a common picture of the battlespace for participating ships. The USA’s DDG-51 destroyers don’t have SPQ-9 radars, so connecting the cruisers’ SPQ-9s to CEC makes sense for US battlegroups.

    Note that while not on the Burke, the Royal Australian Navy’s Hobart class Aegis “air warfare destroyers” will also be equipped with the AN/SP-9B as a secondary radar, per DSCA requests. SPG-9B also equips the Legend class national security cutters, which additionally sport EADS TRS-3D Air Search Radar and AN/SPS-73 Surface Search Radar. IMHO Usefulness of CEC capability for those 2 classes of ships is evident.

    in reply to: How does this one land? #2012146
    Wanshan
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    HH-2D Cubic Corps radar deflated (the antenna folds flat inside):

    http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6059/6312669799_aab2d345e9_z.jpg

    Mmm, not bad. Wonder why this method was not adopted: any insight into findings from testing this rig? And whether it was ever (again) considered for another air/rotorcraft?

    Wanshan
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    ESSM didn’t exist in 1991. If we’re talking about modern setting, it is trivial to find an SSM which would outrange ESSM – even newest variants of Penguin can do it.

    That ESSM didn’t exist in 1991 is besides the point. ESSM can be carried on a small ship like a FAC and WILL outrange Penguin. Clearly, that doesn’t mean defence against AShM, which have varying ranges (but tend to longer ranges). Meanwhile, all but a VERY few select navies will find their ship SAMs being outranged by SSMs. So, how does this disqualify (only) FACs?

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2012559
    Wanshan
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    Ahhhh Wanshan you are missing that the quoted expert from an independent think tank was one “Carlo Kopp”! I was surprised he didn’t say the only solution to the carrier in Chinese service was Australia buying the F-22 :diablo:

    http://www.ausairpower.net/APA/CKopp-2012-RS-0027-APA-450x450.jpg

    Oh, THAT Carlo Kopp 😉

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2012625
    Wanshan
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    The article below could be intersting to you!

    China’s Aircraft Carrier: In Name Only

    Well…

    defense experts say it lacks the strike aircraft, weapons, electronics, training and logistical support it needs to become a fighting warship

    … oh please, come on!

    It is fitted with the same radar equipments found on 054A and 052C. It carries GUN and Missile CIWS. It has EW equipment and ECM launchers as well as anti-sub/torp weaponry. There is a land-based facility to approximate deck landings/take offs. There are Su27K-like combat aircraft and rotorcraft that will likely be seen to operate from her.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2012628
    Wanshan
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    The final sentence of that report is very interesting:

    A vessel in that size class but outfitted with the Aegis system presumably with AN/SPY-1F could be very attractive on the export market.

    KDX-II with AN/SPY-1F? Might even be SPY-1K ?

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2012640
    Wanshan
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    That’s interesting. Sensors & weapons to be updated, I see. I wonder what they’ll get.

    Not sure that’s actually going to be the case. Perhaps lost in translation: Barroso (V34) itself is an evolution of class “Inhaúma” in AMRJ, with a more stealth and upgraded weapons.

    Read more: http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2009/03/16/no-fremm-more-barrosos/#ixzz256o8huhb
    http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Cv-Barroso.jpg
    http://www.naval.com.br/blog/?s=corvetas+

    http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/barroso12jc.jpg
    http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2009/03/16/no-fremm-more-barrosos/

    Fan art strectched version with VLS:
    http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/v35.jpg

    Wanshan
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    Sea Skua still outranges even Sea Sparrow. Even in the best case, we are looking at the frigate shooting down one – at most – helicopter until disabled by multiple Sea Skua hits.

    An Mk29 missile launcher can easily accommodate ESSM en lieu of RIM-7 NSSMS.
    Sea Skua range: 25km
    RIM-7 range: 10-19km
    ESSM range: ?-50km

    Missiles such as Barak, Sea Wolf, Mica VL are capable of hitting missiles at 12km (which I assume to mean they can hit aircraft at longer ranges)

    e.g. Barak “minimum effective range 10-12km”
    http://www.rafael.co.il/marketing/SIP_STORAGE/FILES/9/769.pdf

    likewise VL MICA “range 10-12km”
    http://books.google.nl/books?id=TJunjRvplU4C&pg=PA197&lpg=PA197&dq=vl+mica+missile+system+%22effective+range%22&source=bl&ots=wLm2tqh4Zy&sig=B4oyi8_wB_nXaJLJSpC5klxexDg&hl=nl#v=onepage&q=vl%20mica%20missile%20system%20%22effective%20range%22&f=false

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2013055
    Wanshan
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    Oh I totally agree that PoW or QE is pretty much a non starter. As for an interim carrier I think we are five years too late.

    If five years ago India had put in a serious bid for Invincible, PdA or Chakri Naruebet then I think it might of been worthwhile as an interim solution. Now that they are months away from getting INS Vikramaditya and INS Viraat has had a SLEP to allow service through to 2020 with her remaining SHAR the investment in another interim carrier seems a bit needless. Even a hot swap of PdA requires some kind of work up and I think they are going to have their hands full crewing INS Vikramaditya through induction trials alongside INS Viraat. Actually in that respect I think they might even be a bit lucky that INS Vikrant has been delayed.

    Agree. Still, PdA would require substantially fewer personnel than Viraat, freeing up bodies for new ships…

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2013229
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    If a DDG is hit by a tanker the size of M/V Otowasan (ca 300K tons, I think), there’s only one possible way to apportion blame: to the destroyer crew. The tanker is plugging along at a pretty constant speed on a very predictable route, & can only change direction slowly. Otowasan was reported to be using AIS. You have to be incredibly careless to put a destroyer in the path of such a ship.

    … or preoccupied (doing something else)

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2013231
    Wanshan
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    I just don’t think the Indian naval air service would regard inducting AV8B or PdA worth it considering the time frames. Just an opinion 😉

    Nonetheless, delayed domestic production does not make PoW an option and in the meantime they might need something other than Viraat (my suggestions was PdA with SHAR, not AV8B, as potential interim solution, if the alternative is no carrier. As soon as Vikramaditya is there, this changes the game.)

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2013305
    Wanshan
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    India’s Naval Air Service is busy enough inducting the Mig-29 at the moment! Trying to induct the AV-8B would be yet another burden for frankly little return, by the time they were inducted and fully worked up the pilots would have to go over to the Mig anyhow.

    The AV-8B is a very different beast to their Sea Harrier, pulling pilots out of the Mig-29 work up program, active Sea Harrier squadron or the Tejas-N development program is wasteful.

    The Viraat is going to slog on a few more years and they have enough Sea Harrier upgraded to maintain a token capability. If we are suggesting Italian or Spanish AV-8B then the wait to get them, plus an overhaul and inducting them takes you to the Sea Harrier retirement date pretty much.

    God, you guys are horrible. I start by mentioning PdA as Viraat alternate interim ship platform, rather than PoW (on which I wouldn’t use SHARs in the first place!). Then someone mentions SHAR age as possible issue. Then I mention AV8B as one possible interim solution IF SHAR airframe age were an issue. Then you fall over me for that, even though Italian AV8B could well be suited (and who said anything about aoverhauling those?!).

    PdA is a GOOD alternate for Viraat, should it fall apart. Viraat is scheduled to go for some time with SHARs, so I see no reason why PdA couldn’t if/when replacing Viraat. SHAR replacement is always an issue in the longer term. I’m sure, if need be, you could put F35B on PdA. But that was not the point or the issue. Since we started talking about PoW…..

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2013312
    Wanshan
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    No, there isn’t.

    All the AV-8B in the boneyard have flight-hour expired airframes or lack essential items that have been stripped out to keep the rest of the USMC’s AV-8B/B+ flying.

    The USMC bought the 72 retired British GR.9 Harriers (and the spare parts supply) to keep their remaining AV-8B/B+ flying until they can be replaced by F-35B. Not only will their engines & other parts be used, the GR.9’s airframe parts will be used in repairing/maintaining the USMC fleet.

    While the plan had been to retire the AV-8B/B+ first, the availability of the Brit airframes has resulted in the USMC deciding to replace their F/A-18A+/C/D fleet first, and the AV-8B/B+ fleet last… which means that all of them will be at the end of their airframe lives.

    – Who said anything about boneyard?
    – 215 USMC jets aside, there remain 17+18 AV8Bs in Spanish and Italian service. Marina Militare AV-8Bs are slated to be replaced by 22 F-35B versions of the F-35 Lightning II, operating from the Cavour. In 2007, Spain conducted a contractual study into a replacement for the Harrier II, the likely option being the F-35B. According to a Lockheed Martin vice-president, Spain was still evaluating the F-35B as of 2010. Surely these jets have fewer hours clocked than the USMC jets.
    – projected airframe lives don’t necessary correspond to usability (note Viraat herself had a much shorter intended service live, plus there are plenty examples of types older than AV8B still flying). So long as the airframes are better than those of the Sea Harrier, there is an option.
    – again, we’re talking interim, not structural solution (short duration)

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