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  • in reply to: Scorpene accident #2061924
    Wanshan
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    You mean, descend w/o propulsion and sort of rocking to and thro (by the way, is it back-forward or left-right?)

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2062215
    Wanshan
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    Back when she was still called BAKU …

    http://forums.airbase.ru/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=10054
    http://forums.airbase.ru/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=10083
    http://forums.airbase.ru/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=10052

    in reply to: PLAN Thread (Pics, news, speculations…everything) – 2 #2062218
    Wanshan
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    Ok…another comparisson of the as$es….no boo0bs though…

    So, it won’t be carrying Ka28 Helix helicopters because they would need the extra hanger height that 167 has.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2062449
    Wanshan
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    Not to mention that they are well suited to support amphibious/assault operations (see USMC use of AV8B). Despite drawbacks compared to CTOL aircraft the (Sea)Harrier platform offers some unique capabilities.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2062526
    Wanshan
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    As said before by someone else…what are the escorts that will protect the Gorshkov(sp)…will they be sufficient enough to protect from an assualting force?

    A mix of Delhi (P15) and Rajput class destroyers, as well as Talwar, Godavari (P16) and Brahamputra (16A) class frigates. That is, a screening group of some 6+ warships. Eventually, the screen will include P15A destroyers and P17 frigates. Plus a support group comprising an AOR and a couple of P25/P25A corvettes.

    in reply to: what IS a corvette? #2062661
    Wanshan
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    In the early part of WWII, when escort ships were in short supply, the Brits started building the Flower class corvette, based on a whaler design. Subsequent designs where first improved (revised Flower class, Castle class) and then enlarged (River class). These larger ships were called frigates and designed primarily to remedy what were considered defects in the Corvette design, such as a lack of range, speed, and seakeeping ability. In order to do this, the basic Corvette hull was widened and lengthened, and was given twin screws. This resulted in a faster ship with twice the range.

    Note that the Flower class corvette was about the same displacement as ships such as, for example, the WWI Town class destroyer and the 1930s River class destroyers. The River class frigates displaced almost as much as the WWII Tribal class destroyers. Much of the difference between corvettes/frigates on the one hand and destroyers on the others was in their machinery (i.e. in low speed + longer range versus high speed + shorter range) and armament (primarily ASW versus primarily ASuW oriented) . In other words: different role resulted in different armament and machinery for ships of similar tonnage.

    Flower class corvette
    Original 1939-1940 Programme:
    Displacement: 950 tons
    Dimensions: 62.5 x 10.0 x 3.5 meters (205 x 33 x 11.5 feet)
    Propulsion: 2 fire tube Scotch boilers, 1 4-cyl. triple expansion steam engine, 2750 hp., 16 knots
    Range: 3500 nm. at 12 knots
    Crew: 85
    Radar: SW1C or 2C (later)
    Sonar: Type 123A, later Type 127DV
    Fire Control:
    EW: none
    Armament: 1 4″ BL Mk.IX single, 2 .50 cal mg twin, 2 Lewis .303 cal mg twin, 2 Mk.II depth charge throwers, 2 depth charge rails, 40 depth charges.
    Originally fitted with minesweeping gear, later removed

    River class frigate:
    Displacement: 2,216 tons full load
    Dimensions: 91.9 x 11.3 x 4.0 meters (301.5 x 37 x 13 feet)
    Propulsion: 2 shafts, VTE, 2 boilers, 5,500 ihp, 19 knots
    Range: 7200 miles at 12 knots.
    Crew: 141
    Radar: Type 271, or SU type (varied)
    EW: HF/DF (High Frequency Direction Finder)
    Armament: 1 4″ single (later dual), 1 12 Pdr, 4 20mm guns, 1 Hedgehog ASW mortar, 4 Mk.IV depth charge throwers, 150-200 depth charges.

    Town class destroyer
    Displacement: 1,069 (1,190 for BUXTON, ST CROIX, and ST FRANCIS) tons
    Dimensions: 95.7 x 9.3 x 2.7 meters (314 x 30.5 x 9 feet)
    Propulsion: 28 knots
    Crew: 153
    Armament: 4 4″ single guns, 12 21″ TT

    Tribal class destoyer
    Displacement: 2,800 tons full load
    Dimension: 114.9 x 11.4 x 3.4 meters (377 x 37.5 x 11 feet)
    Propulsion: Parsons geared steam turbines, 2 shafts, 3 Admiralty 3 drum type boilers, 44,000 shp, 36.5 knots (max), 32 knots (service)
    Crew: 259
    Armament: 3 4.7″ twin mounts (2 forward, 1 aft), 1 4″ twin mount (aft), 1 2 Pdr. quad mount, 6 20mm guns, 4 – 21″ TT

    in reply to: Gowind 200/170/120 #2062669
    Wanshan
    Participant

    Never heard of it. Any more details or specs?

    in reply to: Indian Navy – News and Discussion #2062851
    Wanshan
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    Atleast US is willing to part with Perry class and Orions to India.

    Why would IN get used Perry’s when they can build perfectly good new ships themselves?

    in reply to: PLAN Thread (Pics, news, speculations…everything) #2062893
    Wanshan
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    Well, the fire control for HQ7 is also gone. But the launcher and radar bases are still visibly there. So my guess is it was temporarily removed while undergoing refit and will be reinstalled.

    in reply to: Indian Navy – News and Discussion #2063000
    Wanshan
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    And are on par with the assets in our neighbourhoods. It makes sence. IN can use its modern assets somewhere else. These junks from ex-USN fleet is enough for most modern offerings from neighbourhood. besides we don’t need to spend money to counter such navies.

    Again, there is NO WAY that US would export any of its decommed super carriers to any other navy. You can simply forget that idea.

    in reply to: Your Favorite Warship? #2063004
    Wanshan
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    Udaloy II, great lines

    http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/fleet/russian/surface/bpk-1155-12.jpg

    Some more Shirane
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/images/shirane01_h.jpg

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/images/shirane02_h.jpg

    in reply to: Your Favorite Warship? #2063046
    Wanshan
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    A 6,000 ton ‘frigate’? Isn’t that more like a destroyer size?

    yes but that would look poorly on the defense budget 😉

    in reply to: Your Favorite Warship? #2063048
    Wanshan
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    As before when this question was posed the Japanese DDH’s of the Shirane Class get my vote. Fabulous capability level on a sub 7k ton hull and pretty nice lines in to the bargain.

    A close second would be the new Danish Absalon class boats. I’m not one who agrees with the aesthetics of the angled-slab look that comes with modern signature-attenuated designs, but, the sheer versatility and capability of the vessels on such a, relatively, small hull is pretty special.

    Yes, Shirane and Absolon classes are nice. I also very much like the (bow)lines of the new chinese Type 054 frigate. Much more elegant than LaFayette class.

    http://www.impc-jp.net/2003/031026/0102-ddh143.jpg
    http://www.impc-jp.net/2003/031026/ddh-143-01.jpg
    http://www.impc-jp.net/2003/030803/ddh143-01.jpg

    Wanshan
    Participant

    Interesting to see then that Sweden currently only uses SSM plus 57mm gun on Visby, although it may get VL Umkhonto from South Africa for SAM. Likewise, Norway’s newest small attack craft only carries a 76mm for armament in addition to SSM. These are no newby countries when it comes to design and use of such craft.

    in reply to: Your Favorite Warship? #2063160
    Wanshan
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    De Zeven Provincien Class guided missile carrying fast frigates (full load dsplacement 6,050t) for the Royal Netherlands Navy
    http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dezeven/images/DeZeven_2.jpg-.jpg

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