i dont think kashtan module is represented accurately in that plastic model will try to find image showing ayout of kashtan i used to have one b4 but cant find it. Anyway one of the problems with kashtan has been its size hence russia tried to find cheaper and smaller alternative ak-630m1-2, palma. I believe the newer kashtan-M model is supposed to few tons lighter and smaller than the orginal.
As for barak i believe more could be ordered that whats IAI reported along with few newspapers when news broke that US will sell few more orions to pakistan no word on how many.
I doubt Kashtan M is much lighter and AFAIK the below decks requirements are unchanged. see here
I believe the plastic Kashtan model is to the same scale as the AK630 model. But here are some pics of the real things so you can judge for yourself. As for content of module, it must have those reload cylinders so the ‘control room’ shown in the bottom pic must be limited in size and located between the cylinders, directly below the gunmount.
Palma is not exactly smaller, but perhaps lighter than Kashtan. No automatic relaods from magazine. AK-630m1-2 is heavier than regular AK630 due to 2 barrel clusters but has the same footprint as regular AK630.
no, kashtan requires extensive deck penetration for storage of its missiles thats one of the reason why it hasnt fully replaced ak-630 in most russian vessels and also IN considered kashtan for viraat and Delhi but abandoned due to extensive refitting they would require to carry the system. As u noted all those vessels were redesigned to carry kashtan, P-15A in other hand was already designed to carry ak-630 so without have to redo the design its harder to fight kashtan onto it. Besides IN is in love barak, gorshkov was postponed by couple months because IN wanted barak rather than kashtan but finally relanted dont see why they would not fit barak rather kashtan onto their own vessel.
1x Kashtan vice 2x AK630: Mainly, Kashtan is taller than 2x AK 630 but has about the same footprint. To the extent there is room to go up, there need not be much difference in below deck volume required.
Udaloy I (2 sets of 2x AK 630 plus 1x Bass Tilt)
Udaloy II (2x Kashtan fire unit + 1x dedicated search radar)
Delhi (P15): (2 sets of 2x AK 630 plus 1x Bass Tilt)
Surely you could fit 1 Kashtan en lieu of 2 AK630s and 1 Bass Tilt (i.e. you got space to go up to accommodate the taller ‘box’ that Kashtan is)
As for Barak, IN has thus far ordered 17 systems. 1 each went onto INS Viraat, INS Ganga (Godavari class) and INS Delhi (Delhi class). With their respective P15 and P16 sisterships, this accounts for 7 systems. The Brahmaputra and sisterships (P16A) still lack a SAM beyond MANPADS. They are a likely further candidate. So, IMHO 10 out of 17 systems ordered are accounted for. Where will the remaining 7 systems go?
Talwar class: already has Kashtan
P17 “batch I” (Shivalik and first couple of consorts): weapons fit similar to Talwar class, has been depicted with Kashtan.
ex-Gorskov? Possible but unlikely as this has consistenly been depicted with 2 Kashtan incorporated in the front and rear of the island structure and the Russians have consistently opposed attempts to fit it with Barak.
Other possibilities:
ADS (1 planned)
P15A (3 planned)
P28 ASW corvettes (4-6 planned)
P17 “batch II” (?)
Rajput/Kashin upgrade (2-3?)
My assessment is that the remaining 7 Barak systems will go onto:
a) ADS + all 6 P28, or onto
b) ADS + first 4 P28 + 2 upgraded Rajput, or onto
c) ADS + 3 P15A + 3 upgraded Rajput
IMHO (a) is most likely. Like P16 and P16A, P28 will mainly be ASW unit and will have Barak (and only Barak) as self protection SAM. I think it is highly likely that all new built Shtil equipped ships will also receive Kashtan, like Talwar and P17 (Shivalik) classes.
The design is still cluterred.. though much better then the Delhi class..
What are the technical specifications of Israel’s STAR radar
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http://www.naval-technology.com/contractors/data_management/ams/press4.htmlRussian Salyut Pod Beryo Zovik Radar (It’s known as PODBERYOZOVIK-E FAMILY OF RADARS)
http://www.milparade.com/security/35/042x.htm
IMHO this is the STAR EL/M-2238 (as installed on INS GANGA) and not the MF-STAR EL/M-2248
STAR EL/M-2238 
The 3D-STAR is a multi-purpose, modern naval radar system, representing superior performance capabilities in surface and air search as well as threat alert. The STAR is particularly well suited to supporting the operations of anti-air missile (AAM) weapon systems and is also capable of supporting surface gunnery engagements through a unique splash-spotting capability.
The STAR is a fully coherent S-band pulse Doppler 3D multibeam and multimode search radar. The radar performance Long Range air surveillance combined with surface surveillance and, at the same time, provides fast detection and automatic threat alert of air targets with an extremely low false alarm rate. The STAR supports surface gunnery engagement and anti-air warfare by excellent designation to the fire control system. The STAR, with its superior tracking capability of surface and air targets, is the most cost-effective solution for medium-size ships (Corvette-Frigate), serving as the surface/air search radar, in addition to its threat alert and surface gunnery support roles. The STAR’s azimuth and elevation track accuracy and its high update rate, make it an excellent designator for anti air & anti missile weapon and for ECM or chaff systems.
Main Features
-Pulse Doppler Detection of Air & Surface Targets.
-3D Elevation Coverage.
-Automatic Track-While-Scan (TWS).
-Very Low False Alarm Rate.
-IFF Correlation.
-Advanced Programmable Signal Processing
-Powerful Data Processing.
-Extensive Built-In-Test (BIT)
-Automatic Designation to Ship’s Systems.
-Variety of Interface Capabilities.
Typical Performance
-Fighter aircraft detection at 150 Km (medium antenna).
-Automatic threat alert for attacking missile at 25 Km.
-Surface target detection up to radar horizon.
-Track-While-Scan (TWS) for multiple air and surface targets.
Operational Capabilities
The STAR provides long range detection, high quality missile detection and designation, automatic threat alert, track while scan of air and surface targets and high spatial resolution and accuracy.
Radar Configuration
The STAR is available in single or dual face antenna configurations. The dual face antenna configuration provides double update rate, has two radar transmitters and provides simultaneous Threat Alert and Long Range detection while search, by waveform optimization and inherent radar redundancy. Both configurations are available in two antenna sizes: large or medium size.
Specifications: Medium Antenna / Large Antenna
-Faces: Single / Dual
-Frequencÿ: S-Band / S-Band
-Stabilization: 20° roll & pitch / 20° roll & pitch
-Instrumented Range: 200 Km / 350 Km
-Below deck weight: 1300 Kg / 2000 Kg
-Above deck weight: 750 Kg / 2400 Kg
-Power consumption: 21 KVA / 34 KVA
ELTA Electronics Industries, a subsidiary of Israeli Aircraft Industries, of Ashdod, Israel, has recently sold a number of its EL/M-2238 STAR Naval Multipurpose Surveillance Search and Threat Alert Radars to several customers worldwide. The STAR is a fully coherent S-band pulse-Doppler multi-beam multi-mode and multi-function radar. The radar performs long range surface and air surveillance in azimuth and elevation, provides fast detection and automatic threat alert of air targets and sea skimming missiles, and at the same time serves as designator for the ship’s surface gunnery and anti air/anti missile fire control systems. This combination of functions, formerly requiring two separate radars, makes the STAR the ideal cost effective solution for small and medium size ships, where space and mast-top weight and area is at premium. The STAR features include 3D surface and elevation coverage and detection of air and surface targets, automatic multiple target track -while scan (TWS), very low false alarm rate, automatic designation to the ships’ weapon systems and interface capability with other sensors. The selection of S-band, and combination of pulse-Doppler configuration, advanced programmable signal processing and waveform programming capability, ensures peak performance even in extreme weather and clutter conditions. ELTA has accumulated vast experience in the design, development and manufacture of advanced, state-of-the-art naval radars, and the STAR is a fourth generation in this line. The STAR is currently in series production, and attracts high interest among naval operators around the world.
MF-STAR EL/M-2248
Elta Systems Ltd of Israel has unveiled a new naval active phased array multifunction radar. Operating in E/F-band (S-band), the EL/M-2248 MF-STAR includes four ‘instantaneous multibeam’ solid-state receive/transmit arrays with a weight of 1,500kg each (plus 900kg below deck).
The MF-STAR, which follows a trend set by active phased array radars such as the Alenia Marconi Systems Sampson, CEA Technologies CEA-FAR, Raytheon AN/SPY-3 and Thales APAR and SEAPAR, would be capable of automatically initiating tracks beyond 250km for high-flying fighter aircraft and beyond 25km for sea-skimming anti-ship missiles, Elta said.
The system’s spatial coverage would cover 360º in azimuth and between -20º to +85º in elevation. Operational capabilities quoted by the Israel Aircraft Industries subsidiary include full littoral warfare support, simultaneous multi-engagement support, active and semi-active missile support, 3-D (three-dimensional) long-range air surveillance, 3-D medium-range threat alert, missile horizon search and threat alert, maritime surface surveillance, target classification (including helicopters) and gunfire control and splash spotting.
According to Elta, the EL/M-2248 MF-STAR’s “scalable, modular, lightweight antenna” technology can be “tailored to fit relatively small ship sizes (corvettes and above)”. Company literature shows the system installed on one of the Israel Defense Force/Navy three Eilat-class Saar 5 stealth missile corvettes, but it is unknown whether such a retrofit is actually planned.
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