well Ru missiles would generally be headed over the north pole (?). in that case norway and greenland and north canada is where u need the radars..already there isnt it ?
iirc the RDI was a bit delayed so india went with RDM and never has changed it. a future upg would obviously need the RDY2 since RDI is outdated now. A MFD oriented cockpit, Mica, RDY2 and ICMSmk3 would keep them relevant for another 15 yrs I guess.
per sinodefence.com the Qiandaohu class fleet repleshishment ships are the latest of PLANs auxiliary support ships
http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/support/qiandaohu_3lg.jpg
does anyone know the top speed of these ships ? are they capable of sustaining around 28knots ?
btw what does Qiandaohu mean in mandarin ?
sea kings are used for ASW + AsuW (sea eagle) in IN and a few are with the marine commandoes. sea SAR will probably fall on lighter Dhruv helos.
Pit , we have discussed this before here: if RU is to survive as a aerospace power , her internal purchase is not enough to pay for the expensive R&D costs and make some profits. Ru must develop a product that can compete with atleast JSF for those who cant buy JSF on cost and political grounds.
the Mig/Su single engined fighter-bomber with stealth and internal bay HAS TO HAPPEN. the future of RU’s aerospace industry hinges on this single proj.
Otherwise they have nothing to offer the Mig and Flanker users and US/France will move in and sweep the stragglers up.
any credible photo or sketch of the T-50 would be appreciated. I found this lil bird on another forum.
http://www.warfare.ru/0702ey70/update/jan2005/2/vityaz.jpg
:p
Neptune, given the speed of hyundai and others I believe when the ADS and newer ships demand it, some new tankers can be acquired on the open market fairly easily. its NOT a strategic item that needs domestic shipyard to build it or a long training time for a proficient crew.
meantime, excerpt from JDW. NH90 is a shoo-in because Merlin is too big and costly. SH60 is a outside possibility.
Indian Navy expansion advances
RAHUL BEDI JDW Correspondent
New Delhi
The Indian Navy (IN) earlier in January sent a request for proposals (RfP) to eight overseas suppliers for the outright purchase of 16 helicopters in a deal valued at more than USD500 million. The aircraft are to replace a similar number of Sea King Mk 42s that are nearing retirement. An option to buy eight additional helicopters at a later date is included.
Sources said trials of the competing helicopter options to boost IN firepower are likely to begin later in 2006, but the contract will not be finalised before the end of Fiscal Year 2007-08 or later.
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The IN is also firming plans to build eight mine countermeasures vessels (MCMVs) at the Goa Shipyard with foreign collaboration and equipment. These would replace the same number of vessels facing retirement by 2008.
An RfP is being prepared for technical collaboration and for mine-detecting and hunting equipment to be fitted on the proposed MCMVs for dispatch to Thales and Eca of France, Germany’s Atlas Elektronik and FABA of Spain. Proposals to acquire second-hand US and UK minesweepers to protect naval harbours and to upgrade at least four Pondichery (Natya 1) class minesweepers to extend their operational life are also under consideration.
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Meanwhile, talks between the IN and the US Navy to lease two Orion P-3C maritime patrol aircraft, ahead of a possible purchase of eight to 10 Orions, have also been concluded with a deal expected imminently.
excerpt from Janes confirms that Pak-FA-Lite is for Indian spec.
Russia thinks lighter on new fighter
Henry Ivanov JDW Correspondent
Moscow
The Russian Air Force is taking steps to reduce the weight of its future fifth-generation multirole fighter aircraft being created under project PAKFA (Pestpektivnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsii).
Three years ago the Russian Defence Ministry selected the Sukhoi T-50 design over the lighter RSK MiG’s 1.42 for PAKFA but is now looking at changes to meet an Indian requirement.
At a press briefing on 17 January Russian Air Force Commander General Vladimir Mikhailov said the PAKFA development “is proceeding well and generally on time”.
Gen Mikhailov admitted a shortage of funding, “but this [has less to do with] the defence ministry and more to do with Sukhoi, which chose to work in parallel on the passenger aircraft, the Russian Regional Jet”. “They needed funds to start this project and so had to take some funds from the war plane; hence these funding problems,” he said.
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Gen Mikhailov said that the T-50 prototype will make its first flight in 2007.
“[Any doubt is] out of the question. We can even manage to make it at the end of 2006,” he said, adding that the aerodynamic form has been shaped and wind-tested. The only recent change was that I decreased the earlier specified speed by M0.15, down to M2.0.”
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“In addition we have decided to make a lighter version of the plane with the same avionics to reduce costs and the same engine, but one rather than two.”
Gen Mikhailov said that there were few possible situations when a fighter developed to carry 12 missiles attacks 12 targets, making the lighter version almost “as efficient [and] its acquisition price and cost/efficiency as well as airfield performance will be better”.
The move to a smaller aircraft is driven by India, which requested a lighter design after being offered the T-50 for joint development in December 2004.
According to Russian sources, Indian Air Force Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi has met with Gen Mikhailov to harmonise the specification of the fifth-generation fighter that could be developed by the countries.
I think the APAR,phalcon,ereyie use a different type (bulky) of aesa module than the fighter radars because their operating frequency and cost reasons ?
I quoted the Flug revue article which clearly mentions the weakness of eyerie in the 15 degree quadrants front and back. the rotodone radars(E3) and the triangular radars(phalcon) dont have such drawbacks.
> 50 seater a.c
but what is the mission endurance of this thing ? can it fly 500km from its base and stay on station for 8 hrs and fly back ? pakistan has no AAR to sustain this. and it surely wont be flying from islamabad or lahore more like samugli(quetta) or another place far to the west.
> datalinks
mig29 and su30 have it, a better one is being developed for Tejas and will probably be installed on the whole fleet in due course. there have been indian specified work on phalcon to prepare for existing & planned iaf systems
> pakistan buys a solution that fits their needs
pakistan buys the best they can afford among what is available. E3 and phalcon arent options for them. hawkeye “may” have been offered.
there is doubt people can do a lot more with E3 or phalcon if they have the budget for it.
if you put “phalcon radar” into google, the 1st page brings up a Flug-revue link on the Aussie wedgetail purchase. some limitations mentioned therein for Ereyie are:
– there is no 360 cover. in an area of +- 15 front and back the performance drops markedly
– low number of consoles. data for intensive analysis has to be downlinked
and mission endurance is going to an issue if spare crews cannot be carried abroad and kept in a rest area…even if AAR is available which for pakistan it isnt.
Its easy to talk about “net centric” warfare in the context of the US. not so credible in the case of users like pakistan.
Do they have airborne relay and C4I platforms – no
Do they have link16 type datalinks pervasively – no
do they have dedicated commsats – no
all they have is a old ground based JTIDS system supplied by US in early 1980s with a few control rooms spread around the country in the major airbases.
the 737 can land in airports the 767 cant. think some smaller bases in central asia, eastern europe, africa , latin america to fight colonial wars.
why would it need to equal the KC135 in a theater tanker role…it would be more like takeoff from Thumrait or kuwait and support F18s and F15s bombing terrorist dens in pakistan and afghanistan, beating up on iran, flying from Soko to wage war and pillage on Noko…
the basic 737-800 type models regularly fly routes like newark to san diego around 6 hrs nonstop with passengers and cargo.
the 777-200LR should be one meaty tanker though :diablo:
I believe the lafayette does have some measures to control thermal and sound like vibration isolated machinery mounts and seawater spray cooling of engine exhaust…or is it my P17 fetish acting up again ?
the 737-800 and -900 are plenty big. the 787 is a new a/c and heavily booked. would need massive investment for another line to not upset promised customer delivery. and its not as big as 777 ?