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  • in reply to: Bruntingthorpe Open Day Today (25/5/08) #1173434
    XL391
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    Was that the one with the DeLorean parked ouside it?

    in reply to: XM603 still with us, but for how long #1173465
    XL391
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    I’m glad they put her nose cone back on though, even though she hasn’t got a great deal of time left… πŸ™

    in reply to: Bruntingthorpe Open Day Today (25/5/08) #1173592
    XL391
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    …there straight in front of us was 904, rain beating down on her and the runway, heat rising from her, chute blowing about in the exhaust and to top it a dark menacing sky behind her, she looked perfect a true cold war warrior, shivers down the spine stuff and Im not usually affected by things like that, wonderfull πŸ™‚

    I can imagine this image right now, wish i’d been in that van with you guys to have seen this… http://forums.airshows.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/drool.gif

    in reply to: Bruntingthorpe Open Day Today (25/5/08) #1173593
    XL391
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    A truly magnificent day, yet again. Got absolutely drenched, first time i’ve seen horizontal rain, but stayed right to the death.

    Everyone involved put on a superb show, but 904, once again, was the star in my honest opinion. An absolutely superb run from John Spencer, lighting the burners at brake release. All the recent work that the LPG have carried out on her really stood out as both burners lit perfectly, like a bomb going off!! Good to catch up with you once again Andy, see you on the 3rd August!!

    in reply to: DeHavilland Sea Vixen At Bruntingthorpe #1178909
    XL391
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    My word, she looks fantastic!!! Excellent work chaps!! How long until she can run?? Is there any set timescale?

    in reply to: Vulcans That May Not Survive…? #1179230
    XL391
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    Flypast did actually report on them once they had been put up for tender and the accompanying photos at the time (1985)? from inside the cockpit of XA900 showed how badly it had suffered.

    I bought a copy of these pics several years ago from Colin Mears, taken by Duncan Cubbitt IIRC. Here they are:

    http://www.avrovulcan.org.uk/misc/900_cosford1.jpg
    http://www.avrovulcan.org.uk/misc/900_cosford2.jpg
    http://www.avrovulcan.org.uk/misc/900_cosford3.jpg

    in reply to: The XH558 Discussion Thread (merged) #1180417
    XL391
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    Without trolling back through the thread I do have a question?

    Peter,

    Drop Smiler a PM and i’m sure he’ll answer it for you as soon as he gets a minute. You’ll get it straight from the horses mouth and avoid a lot of speculation. πŸ™‚

    in reply to: Vulcans That May Not Survive…? #1181772
    XL391
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    Vandals at S’land

    I would quite happily vandalise them if I was ever lucky enough to come into contact with them…:mad:

    in reply to: North East Aircraft Museum…..updates #1182681
    XL391
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    See here. Tell them what it’s for and, you never know, you might get it for nowt…:diablo:

    in reply to: Vulcans That May Not Survive…? #1182822
    XL391
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    If only she was 50 miles from me, i’d be there with my overalls in a flash…:(

    Keep up the excellent work gentlemen!!

    in reply to: Vulcans That May Not Survive…? #1183550
    XL391
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    I don’t think there are any in imminent danger at this time. The only danger on the horizon for the survivors would be if any of the museums/organisations that care for them went belly up.

    Burocracy could play a part in certain aircrafts fate such as the ones currently on site at airports like XM575, XJ823 and XL426, although I’m led to believe that certainly XL426’s future has been assured by the airport’s new owner(s). The ones at bases would probably be under similar threat, XL361 at Goose Bay, even the most historically significant airframe XM607 (how she escaped a national museum is beyond me…). Arguably, the safest airframes are the ones in the National museums, XL318 at Hendon, XM598 at Cosford and XM597 at East Fortune.

    The other big issue is the general condition, how safe they are. Because of when they were built and what they were built of, if left alone they will dissolve at an alarming rate, especially the mag-alloys found within the airframe. I know that, for example, XL319 was having wing spar checks done but I’m unaware of the results. Lindy’s Lad, can you inform us if you haven’t already done so?. XM575 at East Midlands is one of the better looking Vulcans and on my visit a few years ago, the guy on the gate house said the level of corrosion that they were currently treating internally is startling. He did point out however that structurally, she is in extremely sound condition.

    I think all in all that if the survivors continue to receive the superb level of care that they have been for the past few years then they will be around for quite a while yet.:)

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1183629
    XL391
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    Sad, but True

    I know it’s horrible to think of her being smashed up but, at the end of the day, she’ll be serving a purpose supplying info regarding fatigue during 558’s future career and a huge number of vital spares for all 3 active Vulcans as opposed to just being obliterated and swept into the nearest scrap wagon, which, I guarantee would have happened had it not been for 558’s return to the air.
    This type of fate was always going to happen, she has always been one of the surviving Vulcans that was deemed most under threat because of her location. It was rare that the public ever saw her, the surviving members of the team that took care of her were banned from looking after her (blame H&S regs for that one). Even when I visited Woodford, the H&S regs had kicked in and I was not allowed out onto the airfield (that was July 2003) to have a closer look at her, as was the normal practice for visitors to the Avro Heritage centre.
    Unless you have hundreds of thousands of pounds spare to pay a company like Air Salvage International to slice her for transport and then splice her back together at a new location, there is nothing down for her sadly.
    I can’t believe i’m trying to justify the death of another V-bomber here, but even I, one of the most blinkered Vulcan fans around, can see that there is nothing really that can be done to save the old girl…:(

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1183946
    XL391
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    I’ve heard August/September somewhere…

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1184123
    XL391
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    I agree…

    That a rare aircraft has to go but if it is for the good of keeping one in the air and providing spares for the rest then I think it is a worthy sacrifice..

    I didn’t at first, I love these big birds and to think another one is going so soon after the last… However when you look at the circumstances placed on her, this is the best way to go about things I feel. She couldn’t be split for transport economically due to the enormous centre section and she certainly ain’t gonna fly out… She’s lived there for 26 years now, which is longer than the RAF had her in the first place!!

    Plus with all the thousands of bits not used for spares I would think a selling off for souveneers to collectors or enthusiusts would be a done thing..

    I think that’s an excellent idea, if she is cut up correctly. I’d imagine stuff like her tail number, nav lights, engine ancillaries would fetch a few bob if removed correctly.

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1184134
    XL391
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    what tests? shame really….

    From what was said at the AGM, 603 will be used for tests on the spars to determine XH558’s flying life and also to see what effect living outside for 26 years has done to the airframe.
    Unfortunately, this will result in the airframe being destroyed in the process sadly, because of the location of these areas within the airframe. πŸ™ Before these tests occur however, she is to be fully spares recovered, including her undercarrige legs.
    I know this is a sad end for her, I’m gutted personally, but at the end of the day, at least her destruction is to have some engineering value to 558’s flying programme as opposed to her just being smashed to bits by a JCB which, let’s face it, was absolutely 100% certain to happen in the next few years what with the volunteers being banned from working on her since 2003/2004 and the subsequent slide in her condition and, not forgetting, Woodford is rumoured to be up for the chop at the end of the Nimrod programme…
    No doubt other airframes will benefit from the non airworthy spare parts like XL426 & XM655. Hopefully, XM655 will have benefit from her demise by getting at least two spare Olympus 301’s. At least her sound condition means that she will live on in the three other active airframes as opposed to being reduced to ally pulp, unlike her neighbour at a certain seaside resort who really was too far gone to be of any use, even to the static survivors… πŸ™

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