Bager1968The USAF F-15D crashed.
On 8 October 2014.
US Lakenheath fighter jet crash in Lincolnshire cost revealed
Bager1968The F-14 was an interceptor, designed to stop Russian bombers and large long-range air-launched cruise missiles first, then to protect the fleet from smaller enemy strike aircraft.
The F-15 is an air-supremacy fighter, designed to first defeat enemy fighter aircraft, then kill whatever other enemy aircraft are around.
The F-15A was faster overall, accelerated faster, climbed faster, was more maneuverable, and was cheaper than the F-14A. It weighed less and had more powerful engines.
Bager1968You should change that false and deceptive thread title.
The report is from the Rand Corporation, a private think-tank – and was requested by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission – NOT the Pentagon (Headquarters of the US military)!
The article you link even states that “That isn’t how the Pentagon sees it.”, and provides quotes where the conclusions of the report are disputed.
Bager1968Since 1945, Dresden has been used to beat the RAF about its conduct of “terror bombing” during WW2. Many sources claim that Dresden was merely a quiet peaceable little medieval town going about its business and waiting for the war to end. In fact it was a major industrial centre and rail junction. As it was stated in the Dresden City Council Yearbook of 1942 – “Anyone who knows Dresden only as a cultural city would be very surprised to be made aware of the extensive and versatile activity that make Dresden one of the foremost industrial locations of the Reich”.
There were 127 factories in the Dresden municipal area, most of which were converted to war production from their former peace time use. Some examples: Zeiss turned out bomb sights, u-boat periscopes and time fuses. A former typewriter and sewing machine factory made guns and ammunition and a catering machine factory switched to producing torpedoes for the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe. Arts and crafts workshops in the old town were making tail assemblies for V-1s. Other factories were turning out searchlights, aircraft components and field communications equipment. From the Dresden Chamber of Commerce in 1944 – “The work rhythm of Dresden is determined by the needs of our army.” (The famous “Dresden” China was, as it always has been, made 12 mile away in Meisen).
During the Yalta conference in February 1945, at the Chiefs of Staff meeting, General Antonov specifically asked that the Dresden railway junction be bombed. Records held at the Public Records office in Kew confirm this request. General Antonov wanted Dresden attacked because it was a German base of operations against Marshall Koniev`s left flank that stood in the way of his advance into Germany. The troop reinforcement and transport centre shifted 28 troop trains a day through the marshalling yards. This is also confirmed in intelligence reports held in the Public Records office in Kew. Besides the physical contribution to the Eastern front, Dresden was a communications centre through which most telephone and telegraph lines connecting High Command to the southern flank of the Eastern front passed.
Finally, and most convincingly, captured German High Command documents from Berlin in 1945 state that “Dresden is to be fortified as a military strongpoint, to be held at all costs.” British wartime records that were only recently de-classified reveal that this was known to the British and Russian commanders, as the orders to the German local defence commander were intercepted and deciphered by Ultra at Bletchley Park.
No, Dresden wasn’t a tactical target against the Wehrmacht. It was a strategic blow against the infrastructure that permitted the Wehrmacht to operate against the Russians.
As for the amount of damage – Dresden was minor:
A successful incendiary raid required ideal weather that included dry air and significant wind. Weather reports predicted these conditions over Tokyo on the night of March 9-10, 1945. A force of 334 B-29s was unleashed – each plane stripped of ammunition for its machine guns to allow it to carry more fire-bombs. The lead attackers arrived over the city just after dark and were followed by a procession of death that lasted until dawn. The fires started by the initial raiders could be seen from 150 miles away. The results were devastating: almost 17 square miles of the city were reduced to ashes. Estimates of the number killed range between 80,000 and 200,000, a higher death toll than that produced by the dropping of the Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima or Nagasaki six months later.
Name of Japanese city firebombed / Percentage of the city destroyed / Equivalent in size to the following American city
Yokohama 58 Cleveland
Tokyo 51 New York
Toyama 99 Chattanooga
Nagoya 40 Los Angeles
Osaka 35.1 Chicago
Nishinomiya 11.9 Cambridge
Siumonoseki 37.6 San Diego
Kure 41.9 Toledo
Kobe 55.7 Baltimore
Omuta 35.8 Miami
Wakayama 50 Salt Lake City
Kawasaki 36.2 Portland
Okayama 68.9 Long Beach
Yawata 21.2 San Antonio
Kagoshima 63.4 Richmond
Amagasaki 18.9 Jacksonville
Sasebo 41.4 Nashville
Moh 23.3 Spokane
Miyakonoio 26.5 Greensboro
Nobeoka 25.2 Augusta
Miyazaki 26.1 Davenport
Hbe 20.7 Utica
Saga 44.2 Waterloo
Imabari 63.9 Stockton
Matsuyama 64 Duluth
Fukui 86 Evansville
Tokushima 85.2 Ft. Wayne
Sakai 48.2 Forth Worth
Hachioji 65 Galveston
Kumamoto 31.2 Grand Rapids
Isezaki 56.7 Sioux Falls
Takamatsu 67.5 Knoxville
Akashi 50.2 Lexington
Fukuyama 80.9 Macon
Aomori 30 Montgomery
Okazaki 32.2 Lincoln
Oita 28.2 Saint Joseph
Hiratsuka 48.4 Battle Creek
Tokuyama 48.3 Butte
Yokkichi 33.6 Charlotte
Uhyamada 41.3 Columbus
Ogaki 39.5 Corpus Christi
Gifu 63.6 Des Moines
Shizuoka 66.1 Oklahoma City
Himeji 49.4 Peoria
Fukuoka 24.1 Rochester
Kochi 55.2 Sacramento
Shimizu 42 San Jose
Omura 33.1 Sante Fe
Chiba 41 Savannah
Ichinomiya 56.3 Sprinfield
Nara 69.3 Boston
Tsu 69.3 Topeka
Kuwana 75 Tucson
Toyohashi 61.9 Tulsa
Numazu 42.3 Waco
Chosi 44.2 Wheeling
Kofu 78.6 South Bend
Utsunomiya 43.7 Sioux City
Mito 68.9 Pontiac
Sendai 21.9 Omaha
Tsuruga 65.1 Middleton
Nagaoka 64.9 Madison
Hitachi 72 Little Rock
Kumagaya 55.1 Kenosha
Hamamatsu 60.3 Hartford
Maebashi 64.2 Wheeling
Bager1968American F-22s are escorting Jordanian planes during airstrikes against ISIS
Lol. Clueless writers with last war mentality nattering about F-22s flying with Jordanian F-16s which are not in danger from “enemy” aircraft. :stupid:
I bet it never occurred to the writers that F-22s are there for an entirely different reason.
You know, if you actually read articles instead of blathering on without reading them, you wouldn’t make stupid comments like that.
Here is what the article said:
the F-22 Raptors are probably used to provide the so-called “forward target identification.”
Raptor stealth fighters can use their ability to enter a target area, gather details about enemy systems with their extremely advanced onboard sensors (including an Active Electronically Scanned Array — AESA radar), share the picture and enemy information with other tactical assets and AWACS, then escort other unstealthy planes or drones toward the targets.
They can also attack targets with Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs) if needed. F-22s can carry two 1,000-pound GBU-32 JDAMs or eight GBU-39 small-diameter bombs, 250-pound multipurpose, insensitive, penetrating, blast-fragmentation warhead for stationary targets, along with AIM-120s AMRAAMs (Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles) radar-guided missiles, and AIM-9 Sidewinder IR-guided missiles.
However, in modern scenarios as well as in Syria and Iraq, the fifth-generation aircraft is more an “electronic warfare enabled sensor-rich aircraft” than a pure interceptor with swing-role capabilities.
Bager1968Later ones not so much:
09 August 1952 One Hawker Sea Fury kills a MIG-15 with 20mm cannons.
10 September 1952 One F4U-4B (USMC) kills a MIG-15 with 0.50cal.
20 June 1965: Two A-1H share a kill of a MIG-17 with 20mm cannons.
09 October 1966 One A-1H kills a MIG-17 with 20mm cannons.
This was posted on another board by another person:
Over 100 Me-262’s were downed by piston fighters, mainly by P-51’s but also P-47’s, Spitfires, Tempests and Typhoons all had victories over jets in WWII confirmed in German records; bombers also claimed some though I don’t know of any certain confirmations from German side.
An F4U and a Yak-9 had victories over jets (MiG-15 and F-80 respectively) in the Korean War reflected in opposing accounts. A Sea Fury claimed a MiG-15 though Chinese accounts of the same action mention no loss. B-29’s shot down at least 3 MiG-15’s (though the 27 official credits were mostly overclaims) and Soviet/Chinese accounts credit a B-26 (ie. WWII A-26, Invader), an RB-26, and a P4Y (WWII PB4Y-2, Privateer) w/ MiG-15’s in the Korean War period though the US didn’t credit those victories.
A Vietnamese MiG-17 was lost in at least one of the two cases where A-1’s claimed them in Vietnam.
It was also noted that less than half of the Me-262s shot down were taking off or landing – most were hit by multiple Allied fighters while attacking bomber formations. Hard to evade 4-5 fighters at the same time, even if they are slower, if they are between you and your destination/target.
Bager1968Which is “many years ago” like I said. His comment was somehow trying to imply that Northrop Grumman somehow went into a huddle, bought SC so that they could build the T-X concept.
No **** Sherlock – that was obvious to everyone who read the two posts.
I was providing the date for topspeed, quit being so insecure.
Bager1968IMHO Northrop has to be badly cornered if it has to buy Scaled to get outa trouble.
The bought them many years ago. Companies acquire smaller companies all the time. Its a strategic decision that is taken in order to strengthen your core areas of business (or develop new ones) for the future.
The acquisition of Scaled Composites by Northrop Grumman was completed on August 24, 2007.
Bager1968Apparently the whole “We’ll trade him for that failed female suicide bomber” schtick was a deception from the start.
A short time after the video became public, Jordanian military spokesman Mamdouh Al Amri said al-Kasasbeh was “assassinated” on January 3.
His statement indicates the back-and-forth in recent weeks between Jordan and ISIS about a possible prisoner exchange to free the pilot took place after his death. Jordan repeatedly had asked ISIS to show proof that al-Kasasbeh was alive.
Bager1968The RAAF had 114 Mirage IIIs (16 trainers & 98 combat aircraft).
According to the RAAF museum website, they lost “over 40” in accidents.
https://www.airforce.gov.au/raafmuseum/research/aircraft/series3/A3.htm
If you went through the listing here, you could count them exactly, with cause of loss for most, and also add up the fatalities.
http://www.adf-serials.com.au/3a3.htm
Bager1968F-5:
Brazil: F-5EM/FM – by EMBRAER/Elbit
Canada – CF-5D/CF-116D
Chile: F-5E Tiger III – by IAI
Iran: Azaraksh, Saeqeh, Simorgh (trainer) – by HESA
Morocco – F-5E Tiger III – by LAHAV
Singapore – F-5S/T – by Elbit
Spain – SF-5B(M) – by CASA
ROC (Taiwan) – F-5MLU Tiger IV – by Northrop
Thailand – by Elbit
Turkey – F-5-2000 (Tiger III) – by LAHAV
You forgot:
USA – F-5G
Better known as F-20 (for marketing purposes).
Bager1968HMS Eagle was quite capable later of operating Phantoms as well as Ark Royal after re-fit, but was withdrawn prematurely by an anti carrier Labour government at the time.
Regards, Gerry R
Not quite. While Eagle had been used for trials of the Phantom FG.1, that was with steel plates welded to the deck behind the catapults to protect the flight deck from the downward-pointing afterburner exhausts, and only one DAX-II arresting engine (#3) installed (the 4 others remained DAX-Is). Her catapults were the same as what Ark Royal got in 1970 (except for the bridle-catcher “horn”s).
She would have needed the other arresting engines replaced, catapult “horns” and water-cooled JBDs (jet-blast deflectors) installed, as well as getting avionics, engine, etc maintenance equipment for the Phantom installed.
Yes, this would have cost comparatively little – the estimate in 1967 was £5 million and 6 months.
– Eagle modernization 1960-1963: £500MM (included full rework of boilers, turbines, and so much more)
– Ark Royal Phantomization 1967-1969: £400MM (ignored boilers, turbines, and much of the auxiliary equipment)
Bager1968my bad, i mean the Su-32FN from what i know they have MAD and can carry small torpedo
Sorry – not even Sukhoi is claiming that the extended tail houses a MAD detector, just defensive electronics.
The torpedo is part of its anti-surface naval warfare task.
Bager1968http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breguet_Atlantic
It entered service with the French in 1965, and is still in service with them.
Other operators: German Navy, Italian Air Force, Pakistan Navy, Royal Netherlands Navy.
Current version: http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/atlantique/
Bager1968SU-34 has no sonobouys, nor torpedoes – it is a 2-seat strike aircraft, not an ASW aircraft.
I know you are a Russian fanboy, but really!
And the ASROC has a small range from its launching ship – aircraft-dropped torpedoes can be carried hundreds of miles from where the aircraft took off from, if needed.
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