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  • in reply to: Bell/Boeing V-22 Osprey #2248573
    Bager1968
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    Not that I know of.

    But I haven’t looked either.

    in reply to: Bell/Boeing V-22 Osprey #2248579
    Bager1968
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    In this configuration the MV 22 would be able to refuel fighters (F 15E, F 16C/D, A 10A) in CAS missions or even air interdiction missions from USAF, as well as the U.S. Army’s helicopters equipped with probe refueling.

    The USAF’s fixed-wing aircraft, including F-15E, F-16C/D, A-10A, are fitted only for boom/receptacle refueling, while this MV-22 kit is for probe/drogue refueling only.

    They are two completely different and incompatible systems, with very different hardware.

    This explains the difference: Air Force Aerial Refueling Methods: Flying Boom versus Hose-and-Drogue

    in reply to: Lake Sebago Corsair (JT160) Video on Youtube #960700
    Bager1968
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    Why do you believe that Dave?

    It is a matter of record (as in, in the court records of the Federal District Court with jurisdiction over the State of Maine) that two Royal Navy Corsairs, containing the remains of Royal Navy pilots Vaughan Reginald Gill and Raymond L. Knott, are located at the bottom of Lake Sebago, Maine, USA.

    Two WWII fighter planes will remain submerged

    By Associated Press
    November 25, 2003 2:00 AM

    PORTLAND, Maine — Two World War II fighter planes at the bottom of Sebago Lake since a training accident in 1944 will remain there, a federal judge ruled Monday.

    Historic Aircraft Restoration Corp. found one of the sunken planes in July through the use of sonar images and a remote-controlled underwater video camera.

    The company sued for permission to salvage the Corsairs out of Sebago Lake, Maine’s deepest. The state and the British government, whose two pilots died in the crash, objected.

    U.S. District Judge George Z. Singal said it’s not his place to decide.

    Part of the company’s argument is under “the law of salvage” and “the law of finds,” both of which fall under the broader designation of “admiralty law.” Federal courts have exclusive jurisdiction in admiralty cases.

    Singal ruled that admiralty law does not apply in the case because Sebago Lake is not navigable for federal purposes.

    …..

    Singal rejected an argument that any salvage operation falls under admiralty law.

    By dismissing the case, Singal essentially ruled for the Maine and British governments.

    …..

    Assistant Attorney General William H. Laubenstein III, said that “at this point, it appears the aircraft is at the bottom of Sebago Lake and property of the State of Maine.”

    The gull-winged planes are Voight Corsair F4U-1 fighters. They took off on May 16, 1944 from the Brunswick Naval Air Station.

    The planes collided over Sebago Lake. Killed were Royal Navy pilots Vaughan Reginald Gill and Raymond L. Knott.

    …..

    Here is our previous thread on the subject: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?95565-Corsair-Aircraft-Lake-Sebago

    in reply to: Bell/Boeing V-22 Osprey #2249548
    Bager1968
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    Some people are just too ignorant.

    The MV-22 is now fully operational in over 12 USMC squadrons, having replaced over 2/3 of the CH-46s in the USMC inventory. This means that over 100 MV-22s are in everyday USMC use… and they have had no worse of a flight/accident record (on a per 1000 flight-hours basis) than any other USMC aircraft!

    And to answer your supposed question: They aren’t going to… the same way the USN’s & USMC’s KA-3Bs, KA-6Ds, KS-3As, KC-130s, and all the other tactical aircraft fitted with buddy-refueling capability have NOT refueled USAF aircraft in the 50 years they have been operated.

    This is purely for USMC/USN/possible RN use only (and for ano other nations who want the ability to refuel “probe & drogue” aircraft with a tactical vertical-lift transport.

    Note that the fuel bladder and hose/reel unit is field-removable to allow the aircraft easily be switched between refuelling and transport roles, and back again at a forward operating base or aboard ship.

    in reply to: It could have been the Sea Fury's last 'kill' #964437
    Bager1968
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    in reply to: News at MeierMotors GmbH / Bremgarten South Germany #965327
    Bager1968
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    Lovely photos and updates but i have to ask why does the mechanic go up with the pilot on a first restoration flight.I would’ve thought for safety’s sake the fewer on board if problems do arise the better.

    Some pilots think that if the mechanic is to fly in the aircraft he would do a better job (since his own life is on the line), while us mechanics just want to fly in the aircraft every chance we can get.

    in reply to: Didnt see this one coming….. #971595
    Bager1968
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    ” its off to Pacific Aviation Museum at Hawaii according to the reports and will take 3 x C-17 flights later this year to move it.”

    Aren’t those the key four words?

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    Actually, according to the Aussie DOD and Chief of Air Force, Air Marshal Geoff Brown! http://news.defence.gov.au/2013/08/22/raaf-f-111-retires-to-the-united-states/

    Department of Defence
    Media Release

    22 August 2013

    RAAF F-111 retires to the United States

    The final F-111 strike aircraft to be displayed at historical museums, will tomorrow begin its retirement journey to the United States.

    Chief of Air Force, Air Marshal Geoff Brown said aircraft A8-130, will be gifted to the Pacific Aviation Museum in Hawaii as a token of the close ties between Australia and America through a long period of coalition operations.

    “This gift symbolises the close working relationship we enjoy with our American colleagues – on operations, on exercises and through airmen-to-airmen talks,” Air Marshal Brown said.

    “The F-111 originated in America, it has served us well in Australia, and in returning one aircraft we acknowledge the role this unique aircraft has played in Australian history.”

    Bager1968
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    Yep… the early US manned space program used military missiles to launch the manned capsules.

    Two types of rockets were used for Project Mercury. The first two of the six flights with an astronaut on board used a Redstone rocket. The four manned flights that orbited Earth used an Atlas rocket. Both of these rockets were originally designed as missiles for the United States military.

    The Mercury-Redstone Launch Vehicle, designed for NASA’s Project Mercury, was the first American manned space booster. It was used for six sub-orbital Mercury flights from 1960–61; culminating with the launch of the first, and 11 weeks later, the second American (and the second and third humans) in space.

    A member of the Redstone rocket family, it was derived from the U.S. Army’s Redstone ballistic missile and the first stage of the related Jupiter-C launch vehicle; but to man-rate it, the structure and systems were modified to improve safety and reliability.

    The PGM-11 Redstone was the first large American ballistic missile. A short-range surface-to-surface rocket, it was in active service with the U.S. Army in West Germany from June 1958 to June 1964 as part of NATO’s Cold War defense of Western Europe. It was the first missile to carry a live nuclear warhead, first detonated in a 1958 Pacific Ocean weapons test, with two tests occurring over a period of 12 days.

    A direct descendant of the German V-2 rocket, the missile was the foundation for the Redstone rocket family, It was developed by a team of predominantly German rocket engineers relocated to the United States after World War II as part of Operation Paperclip. Redstone’s prime contractor was the Chrysler Corporation.[1]

    For its role as a field artillery theater ballistic missile, Redstone earned the moniker “the Army’s Workhorse”. It was retired by the U.S. in 1964, though in 1967 a surplus Redstone helped launch Australia’s first satellite.

    The Atlas LV-3B, Atlas D Mercury Launch Vehicle or Mercury-Atlas Launch Vehicle, was a man-rated expendable launch system used as part of the United States Project Mercury to send astronauts into low Earth orbit. It was derived from the SM-65D Atlas missile, and was a member of the Atlas family of rockets.

    Nine LV-3Bs were launched, two on unmanned suborbital test flights, three on unmanned orbital test flights, and four with manned Mercury spacecraft.

    The SM-65 Atlas was the first intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) developed and deployed by the United States. It was built for the U.S. Air Force by Convair Division of General Dynamics at the Kearny Mesa assembly plant north of San Diego, California. Atlas became operational as an ICBM in October 1959 and was used as a first stage for satellite launch vehicles for half a century. The Atlas missile’s warhead was over 100 times more powerful than the bomb dropped over Nagasaki in 1945.

    Even before its military use ended in 1965, Atlas had placed four Project Mercury astronauts in orbit and was becoming the foundation for a family of successful space launch vehicles, most notably Atlas Agena and Atlas Centaur.

    Today Lockheed Martin and ULA support a new Atlas rocket family based on the larger “Atlas V” which still uses the unique and highly efficient Centaur upper stage. Atlas V stage one is powered by a Russian RD-180 oxygen/kerosene engine and uses conventional aluminum isogrid tankage rather than the thin-wall, pressure-stabilized stainless steel tanks of the original Convair Atlas. Payload weights have increased along with launch vehicle weights over the years so the current Atlas V family serves many of the same type commercial, DoD, and planetary missions as earlier Atlas Centaurs.

    in reply to: Didnt see this one coming….. #971611
    Bager1968
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    Is the airframe in question one of the ex-USAF ones?

    …..

    USAF C-17 flights to Australia are moderately common, there may well be some expected to have spare capacity. e.g. 5 C-17s para-dropped a battalon into Queensland from Alaska for Talisman Saber recently, as well as support for the Marines that rotate through Darwin. Worst case would be diverting returning Antarctic support flights from Christchurch (I assume there are a good proportion of empty northbound flights from the ice).

    Yes. The aircraft in question, A8-130 (serno given in opening post) has the following history (remember, the RAAF F-111Cs were stored from 1968-73 pending modification of their wing carry-through boxes and other systems due to redesign of those components):

    First Flight 15/09/1968
    Delivered to RAAF 01/06/73.
    Participant of Indycar 2006 on practice day.
    In Service 1 Sqn.
    Transferred to 6 Sqn.
    Dropped live ordinance for the final time during Exercise Chong Ju over Puckapunyal on 12-13/05/2010
    Retired by 3/12/2010.
    Noted wingless in fenced off dump on 11/03/2011 and did appear destined to be scrapped.
    Placard beneath cockpit canopy read “This aircraft has been prepared for destruction and all access is denied” however it was not scrapped.
    Fitted with wings etc off A8-135
    Noted outside RAAF Amberley Aviation Heritage Centre 26/07/2011 with wings reattached.
    Repainted in SEA camouflage scheme.
    A8-130 will be gifted to the Pacific Aviation Museum in Hawaii, preparations for airlift via 3x RAAF C-17 flights commenced 08/2013

    From: http://www.adf-serials.com.au/3a8.htm

    Main site index: http://www.adf-serials.com/

    Note the above states RAAF C-17 flights.

    http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/F-111-A8-130

    in reply to: Nuclear powered aeroplanes? #974526
    Bager1968
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    At the risk of receiving scorn for quoting Wiki:

    In May 1946, the Air Force began the Nuclear Energy for the Propulsion of Aircraft (NEPA) project which was followed in May 1951 by the Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion (ANP) program. The ANP program required that Convair modify two B-36s under the MX-1589 project. One of the modified B-36s studied shielding requirements for an airborne reactor to determine whether a nuclear aircraft was feasible. The Nuclear Test Aircraft (NTA) was a B-36H-20-CF (serial number 51-5712) that had been damaged in a tornado at Carswell AFB on 1 September 1952. This aircraft, designated the XB-36H (and later NB-36H), was modified to carry a 1 MW, air-cooled nuclear reactor in the aft bomb bay, with a four-ton lead disc shield installed in the middle of the aircraft between the reactor and the cockpit. A number of large air intake and exhaust holes were installed in the sides and bottom of the aircraft’s rear fuselage to cool the reactor in flight.[44] On the ground, a crane would be utilized to remove the 35,000 pounds (16,000 kg) reactor from the aircraft. To protect the crew, the highly modified cockpit was encased in lead and rubber, with a 1-foot-thick (30 cm) leaded glass windshield.[44] The reactor was operational, but did not power the aircraft; its sole purpose was to investigate the effect of radiation on aircraft systems. [B]Between 1955 and 1957, the NB-36H completed 47 test flights and 215 hours of flight time, during 89 of which the reactor was critical.

    [/B]

    Here are some more authoritative sources to read:
    Review of Manned Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion Program

    Reactor Program of the Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion Project

    http://www.brookings.edu/about/projects/archive/nucweapons/anp

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nuclear-powered-aircraft

    http://www.megazone.org/ANP/tech.shtml

    NB-36H in flight:

    Bager1968
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    Hi All,
    I remember seeing a documentary about breaking the sound barrier and although the X-1 broke it , it was a British Idea of a movable horizontal tail-plane from the designer of the M-52 that made it all possible and the U.S. only got the design because of the lack of government support and pressure to help the U.S. out with their project this all came from the designers lips in the documentary.

    Geoff.

    The complaints of an embittered engineer holding a personnel grudge are not actual facts… especially if that engineer himself did not know what actual knowledge the US had before the transfer of the M-52 data.

    As for your post, you might want to read the parts of the thread posted before you joined the forum.

    There are mentioned the many examples of aircraft built with “all-flying” horizontal stabilizers long before WW2.

    Specifically, though, you should read my post of 24 May 2009 (#46 on this thread): http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?50961-X1-or-M52-who-s-right-who-invented-the-all-moving-tailplane-first&p=1411546#post1411546

    To repeat the post, in case that would be too much work:

    Aside from all the examples of earlier aircraft with “all-moving tailplanes”, the Curtis XP-42 also flew with a one-piece, “all-flying” horizontal stabilizer well before the Miles M52 data ever went to the US.

    The XP-42 was the 4th production P-36A, delivered in March 1939 with a number of modifications for better streamlining.

    It was fitted with the “all-flying” horizontal stabilizer in 1942, and used to gather data on the aerodynamics of that configuration.

    It was later cannibalized for parts, and scrapped in 1947.

    The National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA)* was the governmental agency tasked with undertaking, promoting, and institutionalizing aeronautical research. Founded in 1915, NACA was involved in all experimental aerodynamics research by not only the government, but the private companies… so NACA would have been involved in the XP-42 testing.

    NACA was also a major part of the X-1 program… so they already had the basics of the idea well before the Miles data was transferred.

    Whether the Curtis data, or the Miles data, was more important… or whether either played any part at all, is nearly impossible to tell without someone digging into the X-1 program records.

    * became NASA in 1958

    Note that in another thread someone else mentioned that one of the British propeller-driven fighters was flown (in the UK) with an “all-flying” horizontal stabilizer (designed and fitted by UK engineers) at about the same time as the XP-42 got its new “tail feathers”.

    Simply put, the idea had been around since the first years of aviation, had been used by many designers from many nations, and had been installed on modern aircraft and subjected to wind-tunnel and flight tests in 1942-43 by both American and British engineers and aircraft manufacturers.

    Bager1968
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    The original intent was four Anzac frigates (109m, 3,600 tons full) to replace the four frigates New Zealand operated in the 1980s-early 1990s*.

    After the order for the first two was placed there was significant debate over whether they should be cancelled and four OPVs bought instead. In the end, those two were continued with and two OPVs (85m, 1,900 tons full) were ordered to replace the last two of the old frigates.

    At the time NZ will be looking for a replacement Australia will also be starting its Anzac-replacement program. It is possible for NZ to again piggyback on its bigger neighbor’s program, but I actually think they will end up ordering four smaller, more multi-role vessels.

    They will likely be a bit larger than their current OPVs, but with a “flex-deck” so as to be better fitted for non-military roles in addition to light combat.

    Something like the 90m 2,400 ton or 98m 2,600 ton versions of these: http://www.damen.com/en/markets/offshore-patrol-vessel?type=3750

    Something in the ~3,000 ton range might be acceptable, but they would definitely be multi-role vessels, not pure warships like the Anzacs.

    * New Zealand had been operating 4 frigates as its primary naval component since the late 1960s.

    in reply to: Dassault Avon powered Mirage IIIO prototype #2268456
    Bager1968
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    I was simply pointing out that he wasn’t a newcomer to the forum, as your “welcome” implied you thought he was.

    However, since you seem to be one of those who automatically takes everything that could possibly be distorted into an insult as an insult without bothering to find out whether that was the intent, I’ll just ignore you from this point on.

    in reply to: Yuri Gagarin #997878
    Bager1968
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    Yeah… it makes you think “Why are people so desperate to believe that reality is different from what it is? Why do they have such a deep-seated compulsion to insist that everything that ever happened didn’t happen the way it was reported, and is part of a massive multi-national cover-up conspiracy?”

    in reply to: Margaret Horton – WAAF #997958
    Bager1968
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    In the second post here: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?122560-Spitfire-took-off-with-WAAF-on-tail
    Melvyn Hiscock said she is dead.

    As he is still active here, perhaps you could ask him how he knows that?

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