Bager1968Hell Above Earth: The Incredible True Story of an American WWII Bomber Commander and the Copilot Ordered to Kill Him by Stephen Frater
I’m just learning about the story of Hermann Goering’s American born nephew Werner Goering who at age 19 was a captain of a USAAF B-17 in the 8th Air Force. He did a full combat tour and then volunteered for a second tour, was a Squadron Leader, Pathfinder, and was awarded the DFC.
Goering was paired with co-pilot Jack Rencher. The day before they were introduced Rencher was told to report to the base commander at Ft. Douglas, Utah. Arriving at 1PM wearing a dress “A” uniform, he was left in a room with 2 FBI agents who explained who Werner Goering was and that they wanted Jack to fly with him and if Goering ever tries to land the plane voluntarily they wanted Jack to shoot him in the head and take his dog tags and identification. If they were shot down or forced to land Goering could not be taken alive.
Hermann Goering had an interesting family and they all seem to have been better human beings than him. I’ll be buying this one as soon as I decide what format. Here is a link to a brief interview with author Stephen Frater regarding the book.
Except that Werner was not related to Hermann at all!
Werner’s father had made the claim so often that his own family believed him, but it has since been proved just the claims of a man trying to seem important.
I just Saturday saw something that had a good explanation… now I can’t find it!
Oh, well, these should give you the idea:
URI corrects “misinformation” in news release about professor’s book
March 13, 2012
by Ian DonnisThe University of Rhode Island this afternoon issued a revised news release about a professor’s book, acknowledging that its earlier release contained misinformation.
Here’s the revised release in its entirety:
In a recent press release regarding the publication of Hell Above Earth: The Incredible True Story of an American WWII Bomber Commander and the Co-Pilot Ordered to Kill Him, we incorrectly stated that the subject of the book, Capt. Werner Goering, was the nephew of the Nazi war criminal Hermann Goering.
The book contains a surprise ending in which it is revealed that Werner Goering was not, in fact, related to the Nazi reichsmarshall, though U.S. military forces and the FBI believed that to be the case at the time.
The University of Rhode Island’s Department of Communications and Marketing did not receive an advance copy of the book and was not made aware of the surprise ending, resulting in a factually incorrect press release.
We at the University of Rhode Island take our credibility seriously and regret that our press release was misleading. Steps are being taken to ensure it does not happen again in the future.
The misinformation in the earlier release was identified by RIPR’s Flo Jonic and brought to URI’s attention. The Associated Press circulated a report based on the misinformation. The ProJo did, too.
Hell Above Earth was written by Stephen Frater, URI’s writer-in-residence and a former reporter. He’s working on a biography project at URI involving the late governor Bruce Sundlun.
Deadly Relations: How a name almost got a kid killed
To paraphrase an advertising cliché, with a name like Goering, you have to be good, and Werner was determined to do the job, even if he didn’t want to talk about it, or about his family tree.
Unfortunately, Werner’s father, a working class man living in Salt Lake City after WWI, encouraged people to believe that he was related to Herman Goering, the WWI flying ace and friend of the infamous Red Baron, and by the time Hitler came to power, the Goering name was not something a patriot would brag about. With a name like Goering, the FBI was certain to take a close look at you, especially if you were an excellent pilot going to England as a bomber fighter. Werner was very young, stubborn and not fond of socializing, which only enhanced suspicion about him.
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One of the real ironies of the story is that, if the Goering name had prompted the FBI to keep an eye on Werner, it was the friends and neighbors who remembered his father’s seemingly harmless boast about having a famous relative. If his father had said nothing about Herman Goering, the focus wouldn’t have been as intense, or as dangerous.
Bager1968And the IAC 2/3 will be CATOBAR as well. China is held back by the lack of catapult technology in Russia.
Yes, but I expect that China is discreetly working on catapults, probably electromagnetic.
China is unlikely to be held up due to non availability of catapult technology from Russia. Russia already have steam catapult technology and they even tested it and passed the state acceptance trials.
China can be held up only if Russians don’t want to transfer that steam catapult technology. Or it may just be that Chinese are not interested in steam cat technology.
China is producing maglev trains and other such systems.
They are built by Siemens, but China has a good ability to examine technology and both re-create it and develop new systems from the underlying technology*… as well as to conduct their own original research & development.
I can easily see China developing their own electromagnetic catapult technology.
* and then there is the very active Chinese intelligence-gathering within the US defense industry”’ since EMALS/AAG are not as “sensitive” as other technologies China has already acquired, I believe they already have some good info for “guidance”.
Bager1968Blenheim K7091 crashed near Standingholme Farm, Hempholme, Catfoss, Yorkshire on 6 May 1942 killing sole occupant pilot Sgt ANGUS McBEAN #1014015 aged 25
What is the source of the info, please?
Bager1968indeed 2020 is coming soon. A carrier could be useful for a joint Argentine and Brasil attack on the Falklands, which is perhaps a good time for them to buy one of the CVFs from the UK :diablo:
No, I meant 20 years FROM NOW!
Bager1968The Martin-built B-57/Canberra also had that feature.
The Martin-built B-57 first flew 4 years after this proposal… First flight of the EE Canberra was the same year as this proposal.
I referred to the Buccaneer because it, like this proposal, was a carrier-capable aircraft, not a land-based bomber like the Canberra.
Bager1968A 1949 USN Martin-built Valiant-winged Javelin with a Buccaneer bomb bay?
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I am very disappointed you have gone to a “pay-only” operating plan, as it insures I will never have access to any of the material on your site. I simply don’t have spare money for these.
Nor will I be referring others, as I did in the past.
Your loss.
Bager1968Brazil purchased Minas Gerais (ex-Vengeance) from the UK on 14 December 1956, and commissioned her (after a major modernization in Holland) on on 6 December 1960.
The Program to build a replacement for her in a Brazilian shipyard began around 1980.
Eventually, Sao Paulo (ex-Foch) was purchased from France in September 2000, and commissioned on 15 November 2000.
So you can expect a replacement in no less than 20 years.
By then, I wouldn’t expect Brazil to still be building whatever wins the FX-2 competition. At best Brazil will buy used Rafale/Super Hornet/Tejas or new F-35B or F-35C.
Bager1968Have found the above early pilot and mechanic uttered these words according to the website http://www.paulrichterttwalegend.com/
I get re-directed to another search site, with search results for many combinations of “Paul Richter” without any TWA component) “TWA” without any Paul Richter content, etc.
You added an extra “t” in the “TWA” part.
Here is the correct link:
http://www.paulrichtertwalegend.com/index.html
And the quote:
“Give me enough power and I can fly a barn door.” Paul E. Richter Jr.
In 1924, Paul earned his pilot license #309 and in 1927, Airplane and Engine mechanic’s license #702 and Air Transport license #501. He died in May 1949 at 53 years old.
Bager1968They’ve obviously forgotten their fencing lessons.
They need to go to the US and take “probing” lessons (@10 sec):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7xR_3H0qaTE
Bager1968Don’t know about the camera, but the box label is much newer.
The Department of Transportation was created in 1967.
The Federal Aviation Administration didn’t exist until 1966, when the Federal Aviation Agency (created 1958) changed its name.
Before 1958 there was the Civil Aeronautics Administration and Civil Aeronautics Board, which had been created in 1940 by the splitting of the Civil Aeronautics Authority, itself created in 1938.
From 1934-1938, the Bureau of Air Commerce ran aviation in the US, having been originally created on 20 May 1926 as the Aeronautics Branch of the Department of Commerce.
Before that there was no US government oversight of civilian aviation.
Bager1968” B ” Cheap & Cheerfull…..
F-35B is currently expected to be at least $20 million more purchase cost per aircraft than F-35C for the duration of production*… and significantly higher in operating costs as well.
You have a strange definition of “cheap”.
* according to the F-35 program office, not journos.
Bager1968“To provide the UH-1 with an additional 30 years of service and retain its MC rates, the rotary branch is attempting to resolve sustainability and capability shortfalls.”
The USAF wants to increase the UH-1N’s endurance, range, speed, all-weather capability, survivability and equip it with modernised communication and navigation system capabilities. “The government is seeking interested sources to fulfil [fiscal year]14-18 requirements,” the RFI reads.
Well, I can see replacing the engine, rotor, & transmission (as well as the tail rotor) and some avionics & commo systems from the UH-1Y, which will merge with the USMC supply train as well as address most of the issues the USAF wants to fix… but what will it be called?
The UH-1Y and AH-1Z have used all the letters in the sequence, so either they try to find a letter that wasn’t used, go back to the start and call it UH-1AA, or perhaps play off the “partial UN-1Y” modernization and call it the UH-1Ynot?
:D:D:D
Bager1968The Orion was based on an airliner too as was the Argus and Nimrod
The Poseidon much be well modded given the time it’s been on test.
It might still look much like a 747 with bumps but it’s probably as far away from the airline version as the ones mentioned above.
737, the next-to-smallest airliner Boeing makes, not the biggest plane Boeing makes!
P-8 & P-3 over Pax River 10 April 2010; P-8 ready to drop sonobuoys 22 Oct. 2010
Bager1968From the second thread linked above:
Bager1968True… the Scimitar would go well on the deck of a preserved HMS Ark Royal (or Illustrious).
It would also be nice if the Skyknight’s information display at its new home described its role in Vietnam as a ECM aircraft for the USMC (pre EA-6A/B).
The Skyknight remained active with the Marine Corps for somewhat longer than it did with the Navy. By the time of Vietnam, EF-10Bs electronic countermeasures aircraft were still serving with VMCJ-1, -2, and -3. They flew tactical jamming and ferret missions out of Da Nang with VMCJ-1 in support of strike aircraft attacking targets in North Vietnam. On such missions, the Skyknight would usually fly a straight-line course across the suspected radar station’s position, and the electronic signal receiver and analyzer would reveal the approximate location, type, and range of the enemy radar installation. The job of attacking the radar installation would then be assigned to other aircraft called in for the mission, or, alternatively, the station could be jammed by the Skyknight itself by transmitting opposing electronic signals or by dropping chaff. VMCJ-1 flew 791 missions in support of strikes over North Vietnam and Laos. VMCJ-1 was withdrawn from Vietnam in 1969, and the last Marine Corps EF-10Bs were retired in May of 1970.
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