] Interesting that Xinhua broke the news so quickly.
Chinese media transparency WRT Chinese military accidents fluctuates from time to time, IMO.
As said before, I doubt the huge Chinese military has any fewer or less frequent accidents than, say, the Indians or Pakistanis.
From June 25 Tuesday night to June 26 Wednesday noon, Typhoon Feng Shen (Wind God) shut down Hong Kong, and everyone stayed home, when it became “feet dry” within 100 km of Hong Kong.
I was initially amused when the radio news announced two Chinese military heloes collided in Inner Mongolia, but some of the crew parachuted to safety; and thought maybe they were transport heloes carrying paratroops, and hoped they were S-70s. 8b
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-06/26/content_8442196.htm
to
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-06/26/content_8442196_5.htm
Photos of JMSDF XP-1 roll-out ceremony.
(Can’t seem to find any Miko chan (Shintou priestesses).)
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-06/26/content_8441569.htm
Chinese UAVs.
IMO, inspired by Ace Combat series and Yamaha. 8b
http://www.kansascity.com/451/story/678317.html
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jun/25/2-chinese-air-force-training-jets-crash/
http://app2.rthk.org.hk/pda/news/content.php?id=501115
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/080625/12/2wbyt.html
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/080625/12/2wbti.html
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/080625/60/2wal2.html
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/080625/12/2waki.html
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/080625/60/2waj2.html
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/080625/60/2waj0.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008016258_apchinaplanescrash.html
25 June 2008:
Two J-8IIs.
2nd Regiment, 1st Fighter Division, 1st AF, Shen Yang Military Region, PLAAF, based at On Shan City, Liao Ning Province. Deployed to Chi Feng City, Inner Mongolia.
About 9:00, or before 9:45, during training, collided. One exploded in mid-air; the other crashed at or near Jiu Cai Zhuang Village, Cheng Guan Town, 20 km from capital city of Qing Shui He County, south of Hohhot City, Inner Mongolia.
Two pilots ejected. Lightly wounded.
Witnessed by villagers. Local emergency and fire-fighting departments mobilised.
Crash sites closed by PLA, 10 km radius.
Involved division flies J-7E, J-8II, J-11.
] Carrying short-ranged AAMs?
IIRC, back in the Falklands unpleasantness, British ASW aircraft carried AAMs too.
Mind the propeller blade when exiting aircraft?
] For the KJ-2000, we have one flight of experimental aircraft
“we”?
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/080623/60/11skp.html
ROCAF aviation technical school at Gang Shan, Kao Hsiung County; female Major electrician/instructor.
] I prefer the older gray camo.
First flight of comrade #03.
PLA HQ-7 (Red Flag-7) mobile SAMs reportedly stationed near Olympics Bei Jing 2008 venues, such as the Bird Nest arena.
Reportedly based on French Crotale (Rattlesnake) mobile SAMs (HQ-7, not Bird Nest).
Reminds me of the USA (US Army) Avenger mobile SAMs stationed in Washington, D.C., just after 9.11.
http://www.recordchina.co.jp/group/g20584.html
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20080619-00000009-rcdc-cn.view-000
Photo dated April 2008.
PLAAF female pilots in flight simulators.
(Not enough make-up, IMO.)
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/080616/78/11b66.html
WRT direct flights between China and Taiwan, a few Taiwanese airports are shared by civilians and ROCAF: Song Shan, Hua Lian, CCK, &c.
In recent years, foreigners who took photos at these airports, have been detained and investigated.
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/080617/60/11f4e.html
ROCAF flight simulator at CCK AB.
Finally, accident aircraft serial number!
OTOH, PLA/PLAAF/PLAN aircraft accidents actually reported by Xin Hua are very few and very far between.
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/080531/12/2uyld.html
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-06/21/content_8412403.htm
Tuesday, 6 May 2008:
Jet fighter. #113.
Nan Jing Air Force, PLAAF, based in northern Zhe Jiang Province.
11:14, while taking off, and preparing to raise landing gear, canopy fell off.
Pilot HU Jiang pinned onto seat by slipstream.
Altitude was 50 m, aircraft was 300 m from end of runway, and couldn’t abort take off.
Speed dropped from 750 km/h to under 400 km/h. Worse, altitude was only 50 m AGL, and buildings of a northern Zhe Jiang city were straight ahead.
Ground crew removed broken canopy from runway to outside runway.
Climbed, turned, levelled, flew straight, turned, levelled, ptiched down, and drag chute.
11:31, after 17 minutes, emergency landed.
Aircraft carried 300 rounds (of cannon ammo or rockets?), and 5,000 litres of fuel.
Mike button on the stick, not throttle.
Regiment cadre recommended the senior cadres to award a Second Class Merit to HU.
Netters in
http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=494930&extra=page%3D3
are guessing the aircraft type, by the air bases in northern Zhe Jiang… and point out raising landing gear until aircraft was 750 km/h sounds too late.
] SOmeone once told me, nothing is offensive till I allow it to offend me.
To quote an ancient Chinese proverb, “Mind over matter. (If you don’t mind, it doesn’t matter.)”
] We’re after the users who do it on a consistent basis. Make sense?
Yes, comrade.
] So what do you propose?
Investigate and suspend flame-baiters to ROM status for at least two weeks, or earlier if they pay up the mods?
If you don’t see me for the next two weeks, you know what happened to me. XD
] PLAAF eighth batch of 22 female pilots completed basic trainer course, and
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-06/19/content_8399080.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2007-12/27/content_7324774.htm
to
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2007-12/27/content_7324774_2.htm
More, eh, Babewatch.
Seriously, one of the PLAAF goals is to ultimately cultivate female astronauts from female fighter pilots.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-06/18/content_8394248.htm
“我国空军有望在明年产生首批女战斗机飞行员”
18 June 2008:
PLAAF eighth batch of 22 female pilots completed basic trainer course, and transferred to fighter advanced trainer course.
If according to script (well…), PLAAF may have its first batch of female fighter pilots by 2009.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-06/18/content_8392812.htm
Random photo of PLA Mi-17.
Note to scale modellers: “Mi-17” in Russian is painted under cockpit window. 8(
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-06/16/content_8379824.htm
No, I don’t memorise the matrix that generates serial numbers of PLA and PLAAF aircraft.
So, will someone who memorised the matrix, deduce the exact unit (division, regiment, whatever) of the crashed PLA Mi-171 by its serial number “LH92734”?
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2008-06/12/content_8351466.htm
Photos of wreck of PLA Mi-171 LH92734.
*FLAME-BAIT ALERT*
] 1. The best way to get an offending user dealt with is to send a PM to a moderator.
Sometimes I use the Report Post icon at the upper right corner of a post, to report a post (duh) that’s gone waaay off-topic.
But days later, I don’t scroll back a thread to check whether the mods have done anything, or not, to said post. 8P
] 2. If someone is being a fool, simply ignore them.
ISTR some months ago, two members in this forum were suspended to ROM status (Read-Only Member: can’t post posts (duh)) for two weeks, for them to cool down and decide to continue or not their presences here after the suspension?
Personally, my Avatar (insignia) in the upper left corner of my posts displays my allegiance to a certain air force, but this doesn’t keep me from translating and sharing news of the @#$%^& opposing forces (in Northeast Asia) of said air force. XD
(Besides, this gets my name irregularly published in AFM.)
BTW, I’ve been flame-baiting (especially against certain two or three countries) amongst the soc.culture.* newsgroups in Usenet, only since the late ’80s; so if Gore claimed he helped to invent the Internet, then I claim I helped to make up Netiquette as we were going along. 8P
For (a constructive) example, note my occasional uses of the “*OFF-TOPIC ALERT*” caution in the content or title of a post.
I (attempt to) keep a low noise-to-news ratio here. XD
] Although these forums contain lots of white noise, I like the moderator’s attitude towards it.
IMO, different mods in different forums in this same site have evidently different attitudes (towards my posts in different forums, after I’ve received occasional PMs from a mod or three), and the mods in this “Modern Military Aviation” forum are the most compassionate.
] Indeed I’ve never once seen any racism on this forum which is quite rare on the interwebs to have a forum clean of racist abuse but very good that its not present here at all,
“Dream on, dude.”
Lastly… FWIW, the PLA S-70s are IMO better than the PLA Mi-171s.