Here we go again. Some one not happy with the colour scheme? Again! But hang on, this happened before with the new Hunter T7 scheme. Did it not?
Oh and just by the way, light aircraft grey was introduced with some TC Daks at the latter end of the types career.
It’s called “authenticity” I believe and the only RAF Dakota that was painted light grey was ‘KG661’/ZA947 in the 1970s which is now with BBMF, but that was with RAE . If you are trying to recreate G-AMPY in RAF Transport Command colours as used during the ’50s then the wings and lower fuselage were natural metal. If the reason G-AMPY has been painted in RAF Transport Command colours is for a film, then for those aviation enthusiasts that know, this would instantly be picked up. If it’s been done pure ‘because we fancied it’, then as a private aircraft you can paint it whatever colour you like of course! The Dakota in the RAF Museum at Cosford (KN645) is currently being repainted in a similar scheme, as it wore during the ’50s and ’60s. If this doesn’t emerge with a polished metal fuselage and wings, or at least sprayed silver, there will be an outcry! Call me ‘picky’ and ‘a nit-picker’ or ‘pedantic’ if you want, but I do like to see historic aircraft accurately restored.
G-ASXX and LV633
The Lancaster is at Biggin Hill in May 1966 and the York is MY slide, which I took at Staverton on 31 March 1968 (I took 36 slides of this for Aviation Photo News, so this is one of those slides)
another two of these funny pointed little fighter planes
Sorry, don’t know where these Spitfires were taken, but EP120 is possibly at St. Athan. Both would be late ’60s/early ’70s, but I don’t recognise the locations.
where, when ?
The Grumman Hellcat was taken at Lossiemouth 17 July 1969 before it moved to Yeovilton. The Heinkel He162 was taken at Chivenor, 7 August 1971 before it was moved to Hendon.
now these two are easy but they fit in this string
These two CASA 2.111s were taken at Bovingdon in October 1968, on completion for filming the “Battle of Britain” movie.
oh – the noisy variety….
The Meteor F.8 is at Abingdon June 1968 and the Boulton Paul P.111 was taken at Cranfield 2 September 1973 (it’s now at Coventry with Midland Air Museum)
a Mosquito for a change
Where did you get this, as this is MY slide? It is taken at Staverton 31 March 1968.
and where is that ?
The Firefly U.9 drone is at Farnborough Air Show, September 1957.
I’m enjoying these….next?
more photos where location and year is needed….
Muchos graçias !
Martin
Martin,
The JU-87 is probably at Henlow 1967, but the Twin Pioneer, Lincoln and Meteor are all at Abingdon in June 1968.
If we are talking circa 1968, the Me262, the Me410 and the Japanese Kawa…whateveritis, then RAF Gaydon would be a strong contender for the location.
Mark
Absolutely right, those are at RAF Gaydon Battle of Britain Day, September 1969.
Very surprised to see G-AMPY painted in exactly the same scheme as G-AMPZ was painted a few years ago? Shame it couldn’t be correctly sprayed silver instead of grey, but still looks very smart 😎
The log book from Cdr. Simon Idions’ Sea Vixen, leader of the “Simon’s Sircus” Aerobatic Team in 1968. That’s possibly Ldr.Cdr.Pete Sheppard on the left?
Albert, the Flag on the tail includes a passage from the Koran and was always blessed after being applied to the aircraft, I believe. When the aircraft was aquired I am certain that BAe made it clear that they did not want that portion of the flag containing the text repainted on the aircraft, without the express permission of the Saudi’s.
It is no different than you technically having to apply to the MOD to retain any former service aircraft in its full marks after it has left service and goes into private hands.
At the end of the day the aircraft was virtually gifted from BAe as were a small number of other frames over the years, its a relationship which has served the museums interests and may well into the future, to jepodise it over the painting of a flag is not sensible, especially when 99.9% of visitors do not even notice.Mark Ray
Former Trustee
The views expressed are my own and not representative of the current museum administration.
Do you mean to tell me that as each flag was applied to each Saudi Lightning on the production line at Warton, as the painter finished the last arabic ‘squiggle’, it was blessed??? :confused: How can this be related to MoD service aircraft retaining their military markings, as I thought that only applied if you FLEW them in those markings, not if they are in a museum.
Seems to me this is akin to displaying a Luftwaffe aircraft in a museum without a swastika on the tail, just in case you might offend someone!
A country can hardly condemn you for preserving its aircraft historically accurately, flag and all! After all, how many times does that flag have to be blessed?
Saudi Lightning
I can never understand why MAM don’t paint the Saudi flag on the fin of the Lightning and complete the paint scheme! I took them to task over this, during my last visit, and was told the Saudi Flag is a religious symbol and they need permission to paint it on. They applied to the Saudi Embassy, but received no reply – years ago – so they are afraid of offending the Saudis by painting it on!! Surely, it is MAM’s aircraft and they can paint on it whatever they want? Are they scared of having some death threat cast over them for finishing the aircraft as it once was? It’s only a flag!! 😮
It is hardly surprising that this is happening; we have a government that kow-tows to whatever other nations want. US wants war – we go to war. Europe wants more regulations – we open a red tape factory and gleefully tangle ourselves up.
What the hell happened to Great Britain?
It’s our chance to change this on 5th May! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: