Quite surprised the Irish Air Corps Magisters are ‘time expired’ as they are Super Magisters that were only delivered new in the ’70s. The Belgian Air Force still flies 7 much older Magisters, so why aren’t these ‘time expired’? Surely, it’s only a case of checking the airframe and replacing whatever it needs, whether that means a new spar, engine or whatever? Jet Warbirds like all the Hunters are still flying after a complete overhaul, so if it’s economical to keep all those still flying, I can’t see any reason why a much smaller aircraft like Irish Magister can’t fly again…unless someone knows why?
Let’s just sum this whole thread up by saying “NICE IDEA BUT IT JUST WON’T HAPPEN”
The Yankee Air Force Pembroke C.51 is ex RM-1 now N51973. I was just asking about this plane and it is still in NJ rotting away.
Sad,
Jim
But RM-1/N51973 was a C.51 with solid nose and the one in NJ is a C(PR)51 with a glass camera nose :confused: Here it is at Blackbushe in May 1978 on delivery to the USA. Surely, someone hasn’t obtained a glass nose and fitted it to this one?
HART G-ABMR
Here are two shots of the RAF Museum’s Hawker Hart, G-ABMR, firstly when it was incorrectly painted as ‘J9933’ at Blackbushe in 1963, then during what was possibly it’s last public flying appearance as J9941 at Little Rissington in September 1971.
Good god no!!! White will look lovely but will be a bugger to photograph.
Oh ok then I just want an easy life I admit it 😀
Shame on you! A man with your photographic experience :rolleyes: …well, at least with a great camera anyway! 😀
Earlier in this thread someone asked about the fate of a red and white Pembroke. It just so happens that in the late 80’s (1988 ?) my friend Paul and I were contracted to get this aircraft ferriable for the Yankee Air Force. At the time we were working at Republic Airport in Farmingdale NY (USA) on a group of ratty old t-6’s (trust me these things were ratty) used for skywritting. We always saw this old Pembroke pushed back into the weeds rotting away and the story we got was that it was a confiscated drug smuggler (early 80’s ?). One day the airport security cheif came over and said there was some guys from a museam called the Yankee Air Force looking for someone to make this aircraft ferriable and wanted to know if we were interested. It kinda made sense since we were the only guys out there that knew about round engines and we weren’t really smart enough to know what we were gonna get ourselves into. We eagerly accepted. After pumping up the tires and pulling it out of the dirt we started investigating this airplane and found that it was in fairly good condition (sort of). We pulled the battery out and serviced it, we uncowled and removed all the birds nests and we disabled the long range fuel tanks that were in the fuse (probably used for running drugs). We pulled all the spark plugs, preoiled the engines, put everything back together and like little kids scrambled up to the cockpit to see if we could start this thing. I am telling the truth that these engines turned over about three blades and started and ran perfectly (except for all the smoke that turned the field IFR). We worked on this airplane for about two weeks (running and taxing it every chance we got of course) and had to fix problems with the brakes and the flaps (they are pnuematic) plus one of the engine oil tanks was cracked and leaked pretty bad. Once ready we called the YAF to come out with a pilot and fly this thing home (Caldwell, NJ). We dealt with our local FAA about the one time ferry permit, the YAF showed up with there pilot (don’t remember his name) and flew it over to Caldwell, NJ (gear down of course). As far as I know this was the last time this airplane has flown. (I just recently was told that it is still there and once again is rotting into the weeds)
I have loads of pictures from this experience (mess). I will try to post them (not really sure how to, so bear with me)Stu McAfee
Thanks for posting that story and pics Stu. It just goes to show what can be achieved by some, but not appreciated by others. Unfortunately, I feel this happens to too many vintage British aircraft that end up in the States. They just don’t get treated with enough respect and interest to be worthy of proper restoration and preservation and end up this way. I don’t know which aircraft you had there, but it appears it might be N51966 which was previously ‘RM-10’ of the Belgian Air Force (and still wears their basic colours).
I photographed this aircraft in France in 1966 and it was at Mojave, California, in 1982. Perhaps someone can confirm the i/d?
Shame – I’d love to see her in anti-flash white…
Quite agree…..white, white, WHITE with pink 617 Sqn. lightning flashes up the fin…..oh, in sun against a black sky…yes PLEASE! 😎
VL348 at Newark
A pic of the Long Marston Sea Prince taken today. Pretty sure this never arrived at Long Marston by road as mentioned earlier in the thread.
DaveH
God that’s awful! Do they have any sense of aviation history there?
Would that be this one perchance?
Yes, that’s the one!
So then what is the youngest Bucc that still exsists ?
Would it be one of the 3 flyer’s at Tunder City ?
It must be XX901 in the Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington, as those in South Africa are XW9** serials.
More in colour
Here are some more of my slides taken at the 50th Anniversary display at Abingdon – Beaufighter, Belvedere, Gladiator and Sycamore. As you know, all still survive except the Sycamore, which is seen arriving for the static park on 7th June 1968. I was only 18 at the time, but determined I was going to get good shots of everything. It was interesting to try and work out what flew in and what had to be roaded it. It was surprising how many actually flew in and out.
I don’t suppose you’ve got the likes of a check list fo rthis event. It was before my time but I’ve always been interested in what was there.
I don’t suppose anyone has an aerial view of the whole event either do they?As for pictures generally, personally I’d love to see more.
Many thanks chaps
OAW
There is a check list in Air Pictorial August 1968 issue. Tried to scan and upload it, but the printing was too small to read.
Most Hastings were scrapped at Shawbury, a couple at Bicester and the last at St.Athan.
Yep it’s Fairford alright, as I took a similar shot.