Second photo is XP923, 751 Sqdn

Sorry, but that’s 890 Squadron – yellow moon with black witch.

Hi AR

Continuing with the Macaws theme, feedback from another forum is suggesting a possible trip by our XS186 to Leconfield for their 1968 show ?

Whilst it is unheard of for XS186 to have ever worn Macaws colours, do you have any record to confirm a spare aircraft that might have attended with the official Macaws aircraft, as is sometimes noted as happening at that time(and whch has been confirmed as being a normal contingency by ex CAW pilot Pat Cunningham and Macaw pilot Peter Cowen) ?

See copy / pasted comment:

Also seen at Leconfield show in ’66 (30.7.66 – World Cup day):-

XS186 Jet Provost T.4, ’10’ CAW (issued 18.2.64).

I seem to recall she was at Lec again at the show in ’68, with the “Macaws” and in the short lived grey c/s.

Regards

Paul
XS186 CREW

Hi Paul,

In 1968 the Macaws were given their own scheme of light grey and red and I saw them perform at a couple of shows in this scheme, the spare aircraft also being in this scheme. We know that XS186 was painted grey and dayglo at this time and I have no record of them taking a non-scheme painted machine with them to any shows. Having said that, in 1966-67 the team were called “The Magistrates” and ALL the CAW JPs were silver and dayglo, so the team just flew ‘any’ 4 + 1 spare that were servicable, which could well have included XS186, which any spotters might confirm if they have their log books going back that far?

As a memeber of De HAvillands Engineering team I’m not sure exactly what I can let slip here if anything 1) because I have an overwhelming desire to keep my job & 2) me being a lowly spanner wielder I’m not privvy to the higher echelons. Yes XP924 (G-CVIX) will be repainted in her 899sqn colours, the work will be carried out by Airtime Paintshop some-time in late feb 2007. Currently I don’t believe there is a new sponser on the horizon, however, as previously stated I am just a lowly spanner wielder and not privvy to such info. In regards to the external fuel tanks, negotiations are ongoing.

RESULT!!!: …but will she fly in those colours with no new sponsor?:rolleyes:

Forget it…Corgi is only interested in the commercial side of the business – how much money “they” can make.:rolleyes: They produced a model of Britannia XM496 and none of these models helped the real XM496 at Kemble which needs support in just the same way as the Viscount…:mad:

You mean that none of them were sold??:(

Well Albert Ross

You know your next project at CORGI

A release in the summer of one Air France Viscount or even an Air Inter one might be nice.

If you get the scheme correct maybe Corgi can send a percentage to Viscount35 assiciation???

Does this look like a good idea or not.

The problem is, if there are doubts about the popularity of returning the real F-BGNR to its original scheme, what chance is there of producing a model of it? 😮

And to save people rooting through their old Corgi catalouge’s yes they did indeed produce a diescast Viscount in Air France colours. :p

How do we know? already checked. Great minds eh Roger?

…oh no they didn’t!! Thank was a 1950s Dinky Toys model:o

We can see all sides of the colour scheme argument. And as volunteers at the Midland Air Museum we have heard and taken part in all the debates on may occasions.

Alberts opinion holds a lot of weight she did only wear the colours of Air France and Air Inter. And really yes she should be put back into one of those liveries.

However there is the publics desire to see an aircraft in their favourite colours. Ie something they saw or maybe flew in many years ago. And lets be honest her previous owners dont appeal hugely to the British public.

I would accept a 50/50 repaint, Air France on the port side to show its real history and perhaps BEA red square livery on the starboard to show some connection with a very familiar scheme seen at nearby Birmingham Airport in the ’60s, which should please everyone? Would make a very interesting exhibit to walk round the other side and see a different scheme, not to mention doubling the museum’s takings as photographers would have to go there in the morning for sun on the port side, then return late afternoon for the starboard! Enterprising ,eh?;)

I know I’m biased – everything looks good in Eagle colours! 😀

Roy.

Sorry, I’m NOT biast towards any airline and this Viscount only served with Air France and Air Inter, so those are the only choices, if we are going to record history accurately and return specific aircraft to the schemes they operated in.