After the last Vickers Viscount passenger flights took place in the England in 1997 was there are interest in keeping one in airworthy condition in the UK? A group like Air Atlantic would have been the perfect home for such fine British propliner.
Quite right, but too late now! The Science Museum had earmarked G-BFZL at Southend when it was retired from British World Airlines and it was planned to go to the collection at Wroughton. Alas, they left it too late to organise it’s last flight and it became unairworthy. In their infinite wisdom, the Science Museum decided it was too costly to transport it by road. Another one lost… 🙁
hi Albert
As far as I know the Viscounts I mentioned in Indonesia were the last two in this list
PK-RVP 832 414 Stored at Jakarta by Mandala.
PK-RVS 816 416 Stored at Jakarta by Mandala.and are supposed to be Ex TAA aircraft and are supposed to be in/near airworthy condition – i am going to look at them soon so I will post pics – a few people are interested in the comercial opportunaties here but I doubt it’s possible given spares shortages etc.
John
Hi John,
PK-RVP is ex-Ansett-ANA, not TAA, VH-RMG, but PK-RVS is ex TAA VH-TVP and is c/n 433 not 416. Would be wonderful if one of these could be restored to fly in TAA or Ansett delivery colours back in Oz! :rolleyes:
Here is ‘RMG (c/n 414) at Adelaide in 1963 in its original Ansett-ANA livery
Could it be one of these stored in Indonesia?
PK-IVU 843 456 Stored at Jakarta by Bouraq.
PK-IVY 843 455 Stored at Jakarta by Bouraq.
PK-IVZ 843 451 Stored at Jakarta by Bouraq.
PK-MVG 828 445 Stored at Jakarta by Merpati.
PK-RVP 832 414 Stored at Jakarta by Mandala.
PK-RVS 816 416 Stored at Jakarta by Mandala.
No afraid not, G-AOHT ended up with British Air Ferries being broken up at Southend in March ’91. 🙁
As far as I know she’s probably the only Viscount safely housed inside anyone able to verify that?
Not so, I regret not, as the Western Canada Aviation Museum at Winnipeg have Air Canada’s CF-THS inside, where it has been for years. Also, the Brazilian Air Force Museum at Rio have FAB2101 inside. These are two just off the top of my head, but there are probably others
The aircraft behind the right hand Caravelle looks like a DC-7.
No, it’s an Ilyushin IL-18 of LOT, about the only operator of the type into Heathrow in the ’60s. Behind that appears to be a Packet, or more specifically TWA’s Fairchild C-82 delivering engine spares.
There’s a Caravelle at Van Nuys, not being a civil aviation anorak I’m not sure if this is true or not but some geezer told me Caravelles used Comet pointy bits? Cockpit does look remarkably Comet like tho
Yes you’re right! This Caravelle is N98KT and was previously PH-TRU of Transavia, but originally delivered to United as N1017U. It has been there for at least 20 years and really should be restored back to United’s colours!
Patience will win the day, as I am gradually acquiring all the ‘sold out’ models I need at reasonable prices.
There are two ex Australian Viscounts in Indonesia that are /were airworthy and moves were being made a while back to bring them here for display.
John
Hi Setter,
Do you know which ones they are? Are they ex TAA or Ansett-ANA?
Albert – you might well find that the length of the Caravelle exhaust in comparison to something like a Hunter is completely different and that affects the noise pattern it generates.
Yes, I’m sure you’re right. I do recall the Caravelles as being rather noisy also!
Apart from Comets, Caravelles were the only jets to be seen that day, yes I do recall the high pitched whine. Dan Air were operating Yorks, Air France, Super Constellations.
The aircraft behind the right hand Caravelle looks like a DC-7.
The Caravelles shouldn’t have been any noisier than two Hunters, an HS-125 or half a Comet 😉 I don’t think the Comet was twice as noisy!
By coincidence Mark12, I was looking through the old pictures box and found these, taken with my useless Ilford Sporti 4 in the 60’s.
First picture taken at Heathrow 1963, the camera would never point in the right direction, probably aimed at the Vanguard, I like the advert behind the Viscount.
Second picture taken from a different spot, about 4 Viscounts there, trying to identify the aircraft in the background is interesting.
Third picture taken at Jersey 1966, waiting to board the BM Herald in the background, had very hairy flight back to East Midlands Airport through a thunderstorm, preffered the rough ferry crossing.
Fourth picture, taken the same day, no Viscounts but I like the Ambassador in the background.
I’ve got a few more here If anyone is interested, no Viscounts though.
Have some great colour slides taken at Heathrow that day by my brother but can’t reproduce them here.
Great stuff Peter…more…more! 🙂 Guess the BM Herald was G-ASKK, which was the first one they had in 1965.
I only ever flew on a Viscount once. I was so sick on the boat out to Jersey C.I. that I swore never again and flew back. In those days the airline would take the return boat ticket at full value as part payment. I think, from memory, I had to pay another fiver.
Here is a shot from the ‘roof’ at Heathrow though not the one I flew on.
Mark
By strange co-incidence, this photo shows G-AMOG which is now preserved at Cosford!
Viscount photos wanted
I was very lucky to be a passenger on the very last Viscount flight out of Heathrow, British World’s G-APEY. I have such a love for the type that I am trying to obtain a photos of every one built and put them on a CD. If anyone has any official Vickers air-to-air photos of Viscounts they could scan,or any ’50s or ’60s photos, please can you send a PM to me? Would be pleased to send anyone that helps a copy of the CD. 😉
Can anyone help with any of these in 1/400th:
Aeroclassics AC18071 Boeing 720 Olympic Airways
Aeroclassics AC18040 Boeing 707 SABENA OO-SJF
Aeroclassics AC18041 Boeing 707 Sobelair OO-SJA
Aeroclassics AC18028 Boeing 707 British Airways G-APFI
Aeroclassics AC18023 Boeing 707 Air Tanzania N762TW
Aeroclassics AC18024 Boeing 707-123 American Airlines
Aeroclassics AC18044 Boeing 707 TWA(hollow titles) N771TW
Aeroclassics AC18045 Boeing 707 Varig PP-VJA
Aeroclassics AC18144 Boeing 707 Singapore Airlines 9V-BBB
Aeroclassics AC18144 Boeing 707 Singapore AL Cargo 9V-BFN
Aeroclassics Boeing VC-137C USAF Air Force One 62-6000
Aeroclassics AC18002 Caravelle Air France F-BHRA/B
Aeroclassics AC18209 DC-8-61 JAL JA8041
Thanks.
Ah, reading through all your lists, I guess the majority of you are under 40 years old, as there are very few propliners in the lists. There are far too many boring Airbus and Boeing flights recorded, until you come to Interflug 62M’s list which shows he is ‘rather maturer’ than the majority and has flown on some truely wonderful propliners. Like him, I have experienced a good variety of types and here is my list:
Airbus A300 – Thai International, Olympic
Airbus A310 – TAROM
Airbus A320 – Iberia
Douglas DC-10 – British Caledonian
Douglas DC-3 – Sunbird Aviation
Douglas DC-3 – Air Atlantique
Douglas DC-6 – Air Atlantique
DH 84 Dragon – Chrisair, Aer Lingus
Boeing 707 – British Airways, Cathay Pacific Airways
Boeing 727 – Iberia
Boeing 737 – British Airways, TAROM, Olympic, Transaero
Boeing 747 – British Airways
Boeing 757 – Air 2000, Iberia
Boeing 767 – SAS
MD-82 – SAS
Vickers Viscount – British World
BAe 146 – PSA, Royal West, Jersey European
and I know you won’t accept military, so I won’t include all the RAF Britannias, Comets and VC-10s! 😎