It sure is a pretty thing!
I believe it was scrapped after a taxi accident in 1945. Just do an online search, there is a great deal of information, pictures, and video out there.
Here is a summary: (About halfway down the page)
http://p38assn.org/newsletters/August08/aug08.htm
Don’t confuse the original “Yippee” with later planes flying with her colors. I know at least one aircraft did that. “Scatterbrain Kid” #43-50281 was painted up as “Yippee” in the 1960’s but was lost in a crash around 1974.
On a related note, I am trying to see if any Vultee Nashville Lightnings still exist. I found an old book on the history of Nashville, TN. and it has a picture of the assembly line and stated that the aircraft assembly line (moving) was first used at the Vultee planet in Nashville. I have not been abel to confirm this yet though. The contract was cancelled due to the end of the war after building only 113 P-38L-5-VN models. I think Lefty Gardners’ Lightning was the last or one of the last surviving Nashville Lightnings, and I’ve lost track of what happened to the wreck.
Thanks shepsair!
Looks like a Kittyhawk III (P-40M) doesn’t it? It appears to have 6 guns in the wings. The RAF had nearly 600 of these.
Why all the speculation regarding the canopy position? Nothing can be inferred from the position of the canopy or any other switches or controls in the cockpit. How many people have visited this site in the past 70 years? We don’t know. What if the pilot bailed out and the aircraft came down empty and then came to an abrupt halt after digging in to the sand and rocks. That could slam a canopy shut couldn’t it? Canopy position and switch positions are meaningless in this context. There are still many aircraft lying in the deserts that have been seen by only a few humans, but are still in such remote locations that they haven’t been stripped for parts and sheet metal. (But you might take away a small item like a clock.)
Likewise aircraft position and the debris field doesn’t tell us anything about the validity of the pictures because we don’t know what has been moved, removed, vandalized, or even staged.
The pictures are still yielding some good clues but I’d stick to environment, metallurgy, markings, equipment set, impact damage, witness marks, etc. At least some things can be gleaned from those areas, unlike all this uninformed speculation about an event that no one witnessed nearly 70 years ago.
I’m going to say it’s a model…..but (if it is) it was made by an exceptionally skilled modeller!
In the crash-landing could the propeller, hub, reduction-gear casing and the front of the airframe be torn off like that and leave the rest of the cowlings so undamaged? I don’t know but I’d expect to see some of the upper engine cowlings at least dislodged.
I hope I’m wrong; I hope it isn’t a model!
Bear in mind that the terrain we see in the photos could be very different from the surface it landed on nearly 70 years ago. It doesn’t appear that the engine was under power when it came down, and its nose also is smashed hard up against a rock, which may have been just beneath the sands when this aircraft came to a stop. It might have been a fairly smooth slide along the sand until it caught that rock with its chin. The leading edge of the port wing is banged up but the starboard side looks to be in very good condition.
So judging by the six guns I’m guessing this would be a Kittyhawk III (P-40M).
Only if they can get to it, and know of it. There are still many areas of the deep desert where nomads and Bedouin don’t go. That could be a clue as to the location of this aircraft. Or maybe it’s just a mirage.
I don’t own the pics but here is a thread that shows a P-51H Mustang with the treatment and P-51D “Galveston Gal” (N4151D) is also linked with at least one picture of the dual cockpit with the red leather treatment.
You should be searching the Whittington Brothers and Darrell Skurich I believe. Good luck.
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=44883&view=previous
http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/p51survivors/pages/44-73458.shtml
we have got members from all over the world. any polish out there who could interpret???,
I posted the OP’s first two lines earlier in the thread and someone posted the whole page yesterday in this thread. Or you could use Google Translate like we did if you want to be sure for yourself.
They are talking about the Burmese Spitfires today.
You guys are still talking about these pictures like they are the only ones. They are the only ones we’ve seen so far, but who knows how many pictures may have been taken? Maybe they aren’t showing any other pictures because they do show numbers or other identifying marks. The poster claims the shots were taken by a friend so maybe those are the only shots the photographer gave him. Why is it so hard to imagine that there could be many reasons why the photographer doesn’t want to give all his secrets away just yet? Never heard of that around here?
Or it could all be a hoax. But so far no one has pointed out anything that could positively disprove this story. A lot of poorly thought out speculation is all I’m seeing so far. I’ve become used to a much higher standard of thinking and analysis around here. Disappointing.
its all fishy to me. was the photograther on his/her own?. normaly with discoveries like this there is always one or two people mooching around in the photo`s.
total lack of sqn code and no photo of the tail serial seems realy odd. any ref number or detail you would try to record. does not matter if it was an old lorry or a sunken ship.
Who says he didn’t write down serial numbers or identifying numbers? Many parts of that airframe have been sandblasted down to bare metal. What is so surprising about someone releasing pictures without positive identifying numbers? Intentional or not? I would do the same thing until I had time to do more research myself. Likewise with people in the photos. I seriously doubt that these are the only pictures this person took, and we know that this isn’t someone alone in the desert. Maybe they didn’t want their faces show just yet, or at all. Just because they didn’t post GPS coordinates and serial numbers to a modeling site? Petrol exploration has led to many of these discoveries over the years.
I love the conspiracy theories.
So this guy set up the screen name “AWOT” nearly a decade ago on a modeling website and patiently waited for just the right opportunity to post his masterpiece diorama that can fool even the most seasoned experts. GENIUS!
Do you think he might have been referring to model building (the subject of the website) as being “A Waste Of Time” when he created that handle all those years ago?
Occam’s razor has sure lost its edge.
I’d say that’s very real, not a model. I’ve seen models that you couldn’t tell were models from their photographs, but that instrument panel is not one of those. Blow it up and take a good close look at the details and use period pictures from the manuals for comparison. Real deal. The pictures were taken with a modern digital but the EXIF data has been stripped, so no location clues there.
Here is what the OP said:
“My friend works in the Sahara looking for oil and gas. Recently, however, they came upon something completely different”
“The plane lay so many years is not bothered by anyone. The finder of the wreck told the RAF and were able to identify aircraft. We do not know why he was only at that particular place. It may puzzle some time find a solution.”
We know men and aircraft can lay undiscovered in the desert for very long periods. Many are swallowed up by the sands never to be seen again, some get spit back out decades later, or somebody stumbles upon them. (Remember LBG!) I’ll bet this aircraft has been visited by petrol companies a few times since it crashed and I’ll bet the RAF might have visited the site at least once themselves.
Now who knows the serial?
PS: Here’s a really interesting story of another record attempt that ended badly for the pilot, discovered 29 years after he came down in the middle of nowhere and simply dried out.
The only name I remember is Glatton, which I am unfamiliar with, but I know “Hobo Queen” made several stops in the UK. Just can’t remember where.