Seems the majority here believe that France is acting altruistically. In any event, based on recent events it would appear that not all the people in Cote d’Ivoire believe France is serving their interests. It will be interesting to see what happens in the long run. Will the Cote d’Ivorie be a peaceful democracy with a thriving economy in say 10 years?
It should be noted that the reason there is so much political and social termoil in former French colonies is a direct result of policies followed during the colonial period. It could be suggested that the value system installed by France wasn’t up to the task.
Sauron
Kovy
I am I mistaken in believing French forces were there before UNOCI (or MINUCI for that matter)?
Sauron
Kovy
Well thanks for your brief but those and many additional details are better outlined in the UNOCI section on the official UN site. 😉
I guess if you can get away with a military occupation as well as continuing to practice colonialism 50 yrs after the occupying nation supposably became independant and do so under the cover of the UN, then more power to you.
SOP for France in Africa I believe. :rolleyes:
Sauron
The argument that Iraq didn’t represent a threat or attack the U.S., therefore the U.S. has no justification for it’s actions in Iraq is constantly being made.
I don’t recall the Cote d’Ivoire attacking France nor was it a direct threat to France, yet 4000 French troops are occupying the country. What is the specific justification? To protect civilian life?
Sauron
Perhaps the people running the show for the French in the Ivory Coast will invite the U.S. commanders in Iraq over to demonstrate their superior methods for handling civilian unrest and winning the hearts and minds of the population.
Sauron
A very clear victory for Bush thankfully. 🙂
Sauron
Good post. Should satisfy all except for the idiots.
I remember seeing photographs of one of the landing gear assemblies.
Sauron
The British battlecruiser HMS Furious also carried a 18 inch main armament back in 1916 (4 x 18). She proved to have little value as built and was eventually converted into a carrier. Her nickname in the fleet was ‘Spurious’. Apparently the 18 guns proved too much for her frail hull and produced showers of rivets when fired.
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Itch
The F-105 is indeed a huge and handsome beast. What a sight it would be to see it lined up with the other “century series” fighters with a F-4 added for spice. The only fighter which would come close to it in size that served in the Canadian Forces, would have been the F-101 Voodoo which was also a great looking machine IMHO.
I remember watching interviews with F-105 piots, a number of whom survived 100 (and more) missions over North Vietnam in the F-105, the reward for which seemed to have involved being thrown in the base swimming pool and a mission patch. Hopefully they also got a ticket home.
Regards
Sauron
Itch
Is that you in the second picture by any chance?
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Sauron
Source?
Well we actually have news organizations here in the great white north.
However, if you do not believe the Canadian DND knows it’s own business, you can refer to Defense-aerospace.com.
Sauron
Steve
I don’t believe I suggested that Afghanistan would be easy. I did say while it was a good day, that it will be a long road ahead.
Nor did I bring up the issue of the U.S. role. I made replies to comments others made. Comments clearly intended to play down the fact that elections are being held.
Everyone knows who carried the ball in Afghanistan. Everyone knows who pitched in to help and that the credit extends to them as well. However, if this venture fails, will everyone share it the blame?
The election process will be far from perfect and the lossers will carp and complain and blame Karsai and the fact that he is only a pawn of the U.S., but it’s a start.
Regards
Sauron
There are always those who want to hog most of the credit for what others have done. 🙁
Sauron
As usual the snide references to America were quick to appear.
Difficult to tell how much infuence or power the Taliban actually have based on the occasional spotty news reports. I agree with Beistrich, if what he means is that the so called war lords are only on their own side.
Grey Area
“Completely artificial distinction”? With respect to your views on the justification for invasion perhaps, but for many of the more radical conservative groups, the left in general and the Islamic world, I think not. Few of their spokespersons supported the “hunt for murderous criminals”.
With respect to why did the west not show any interest in the plight of the Afghans before 9/11? – a question of vital interests no doubt, but beyond that, would the UNSC and the member nations, have supported a mainly U.S. invasion before 9/11? Look at Iraq.
Is your reference to the fact that the oponents of Karsai are complaining about the election process, stem from a belief that it will somehow reflect poorly on the US, the UN or the west in general?
As this election is a process we all seem to support, why are you only concerned about how the boycott issue is being reported in the U.S. Should the reaction there be different than the one in London or Paris?
Sauron
Grey Area
Are you one of those who supported the pre 9/11 status quo in Afghanistan? No intervention because it will make things worse?
Sauron