Arthur

Just poor spelling but I shouldn’t have used the term article because that term refers to factual writing which I doubt this is. But in any case she is skilled at artifice thats for sure.

As for paranoia, I suppose the absurd statements and laughable theories expressed here by you and others are somewhat delusional.

Sauron

Maybe she was just anoyed she couldn’t get laid on the flight over and made up this pile of crap.

At the 1988 London Ontario Air Show the theme was the 30th year of the Phantom. There were reps from the USAF, USMC, USN, RAF, and the German AF. One of the best shows I have ever seen. 28 F-4’s actually made it to the 2-day show out of the 30 that were booked. Unfortunately I took no pictures at the time.

Always fun to watch and certainly a more interesting design than the Russian types of the same period.

Sauron

Arthur

Not hunting but for aircraft, astronomy and occasional birding in the back yard.

Yes the 11X80’s are very nice. If I had only one choice I would pick them over the rest simply because they are good at everything I am interested in looking at. While a little heavy for some things a good tripod like a Manfotto usually solves that problem. I have never looked at the 20X60’s but I imagine they would be very good for airshows.

Regardless of the type and size at hand, looking at the night sky with a pair of binos is a relaxing and mellowing experience after a hard day of arguing war and politics. 🙂

Regards

Sauron.

Softlad

IMHO the 10X50’s are about perfect for general use including airshows. For value it’s hard to beat the B & L Legacys as Flood has already pointed out – 5mm exit pupil, BK4 prisms, tripod socket, reasonable field of view and about 2lbs. Good for the night sky as well. 🙂 There are many other good choices of course.

I currently have 7X35’s, 7X50’s, 10X50’s, 11X80’s, 20X100’s and am looking for 25×100’s. I dream about a pair of 25X150’s.

Regards

Sauron

Sorry Garry I didn’t take Arthur’s subtlety into account.

Regards

Sauron

Dutchy

I see you have sobered up. Hope your head feels OK. I had a few myself yesterday.

It’s difficult to argue past your point about “retoric” and spurious comparisons. However, Israel exists primarily because of the WW11 and the exodus to Palestine was the consequence. That is the plain fact. Why stay where 6 million had just been murdered? Better to risk the uncertaincy of going to Palestine than to stay in the post-war turmoil of Europe. Should they have stayed to help absolve European guilt? To simplfy things and make it less ackward for Britain and France in the M-E? I doubt if many Jews at that time gave much thought to the consequenses of their actions with respect to the Palestinian population.

I also believe that absolving Arafat of any blame for the actions of the terrorists operating out of Palestine, is questionable. I have often heard it said that he is the democratically elected leader of the Palistinians. If that is so he shares the blame. And what about the responsibility of the surrounding Arab governments. Most openly encourage and finance terrorist activity against Israel. This is not the action of individuals.

I have strayed off-topic a bit. I do wonder, however, how differently the Israel-Palestinian situation might have evolved if Europe had stayed engaged in the area instead of running away from it’s historic responsibilities in the 40’s. Unfortunately the “collective guilt” for what happened to the Jews in Europe that you you speak of, nor the specific responsibility for the Palestinians and the Arabs in general was not strong enough. Instead the job gradually fell to the U.S.

Regards

Sauron

Yes Arthur, bring up more claims of torture. If such acts were commited and the pictures are out there why has it been necessary to resort to publishing fakes?

Sauron