But what is the significance of “No 5”?
I wondered if they might be markers indicating hangar numbers?
Roger Smith.
Nice photos. Only just realised the Javelin has no Squadron markings – I always think of the “flat Iron” WITH markings.
Anyone know which was most common with or without.
Roger Smith
didnt Neville Franklin edit the “Control Column ” magazine ? i bet there were some rare kits amongst the hoard, lets hope they found good homes:cool: 😎 😎
Neville Franklin was one of the pioneers of the UK’s “amateur” aircraft preservation movement that got going in the 1960’s. He was instrumental in setting up Newark Air Museum (with Charles Waterfall) and when the new magazine “Control Column” launched by the Northern Aircraft Preservation Society in early 1967 got into difficulty he took it over and ran it for many years. The arrival of “FlyPast” and “Aeroplane Monthly” effectively took away “Control Columns” market and it ceased publication.
That’s a probably terrible mini-biography and I apologise for any mistakes. If anyone can come up with corrections – or a better version I will happily delete it.
Re: kits going to good home – you’ve got about 4 weeks to make offers yet as bidding closes sometime in October (see link on previous thread). Remember monies raised will go towards funding the incorporation of the collection at NAM.
Roger Smith.
Very brief production run. F-15, when F stood for Photo……rather funny if you ask me.
You say potato and I’ll say potato 😀 😀 😀
Roger Smith.
I think that will be the collection of the late Neville Franklin. It was a very close run thing that it didn’t all end up dumped.
I’m delighted that Newark Air Museum – who’s members stepped in and removed the collection to safety with no expectation of acquisition – have become beneficiaries.
Have YOU got a collection? If so have you made provision for when you “fall off the perch” ?:o
Roger Smith.
I believe the Martin Baker Meteors have very limited range??
Roger Smith.
Yes I agree museums/historians should present a balanced view of Bomber Command/USAF’s campaign. A lot of German civilians were killed and so were a lot of Allied aircrews but it was “total war” – the evil of Nazism had to be destroyed.
Whenever this awful revisionist topic arises I think of Arthur Harris’s line “They have sown the wind, so they shall reap the whirlwind” (not sure if I’ve got that right).
Also how many civilians died as a result of Luftwaffe bombing – starting off with Czechoslovakia and Poland?
Roger Smith.
The Sabre was G-ATBF previuosly Italian Air Force MM19607
I seem to remember a story that it had concrete poured in it. It seems to have disappeared completely.
Roger Smith
Isn’t/wasn’t there an historian Philip Moyes – were his initials the same?
Roger Smith.
Lovely photo. I wonder if, with modern computer technology, one could identify the camera ship – it must appear as a reflection somewhere on the subject aircraft’s cowls.
Roger Smith.
veeeerrry nice – that’s my kind of formation.
I’ve got a soft spot for SAAB – long may they continue.
How many other aircraft manufacturers are still around with the same name they had when they started (or 1940) – Boeing and Cessna perhaps?
Roger Smith.
Well there have been plenty of rumours, but all will be revealed on Sunday when she returns to Coventry.
Tom.
Can you give us an expected time of arrival?
Roger Smith.
Thanks for these three forty. I saw the B.727 displayed in the Chicago Science Museum some years ago which has been there quite a good while now.
I wonder how many other of the type are in preservation?
Roger Smith.
Just musing what the ferry range of the Mars would be and, if it made it to Europe, where it might stage through? Ireland, the UK or France – and where would be most suitable?
Despite the horrendous news reports from Greece dare I say the prospect of seeing a Mars is exciting.
Roger Smith.
G-AIZK
Barry Clay has written to me saying that the date of the press cutting WAS September, 1964 and it came from “Woman’s Weekly”.
He mentions other Hawk Trainers being collected and brought to Baginton to help keep G-AKAT flying and he concludes:
“Dont forget that these types were considered highly expendable following the paranoia created by the ARB with their beetle glue findings at that time, Proctor’s and Magister aircraft in particular were affected with heavy restrictions being placed on them, most failed their C of A on renewal of same.”
Roger Smith.