Arm Waver – you should have titled this thread “Scottish Aviation Bulldog” (or “Beagle Bulldog”) to prevent heart attacks amongst those of us of a mature age – who’s first thoughts may run to Bristol Bulldog 😀 😀 😀
Roger Smith.
did Canada’s example come from this scrap heap?
I believe Canada originally had two Hinds to build a complete one from but, in the end, didn’t need the second and disposed of it?
Also there was a photograph posted on another forum only a few days ago of the RO 37 (remains) that was repatriated to Italy on display at Vigna di Valle awaiting restoration.
Roger Smith.
I wrote an article for a MAM newsletter some years ago on the subject and went through every street name in Coventry. There are many names that you could suggest are named after an aircraft – As Phantom Phixer said there is a Siskin Drive that lead to where the Armstrong Whitworth factory stood. That is certainly named after the AW Siskin rather than the bird the fighter was named after.
My interest was originally prompted by two adjoining residential streets near where I live – Farman Road and Latham Road. The houses there where built c. 1909 so it seems obvious they were named after the Farman brothers and Hubert Latham – but why? Why those two names and only those two when there were plenty more streets that could have been Bleriot Road or Cody Street? Close by is a Shackleton Road but as those houses are of a similar age it was presumably named after the explorer.
Other streets I found have dual possibilities – Vanguard Way is not named after the Vickers’ product but after the Standard Vanguard motor car as the road is located in the site of the (now demolished) Standard Motors factory.
Happily, in recent years, one old aviation-related street name in Coventry has been brought back into use – Puma Way. It used to be within the Parkside factory of Armstrong Siddeley/Rolls Royce and was expected to disappear when the factory was developed but it was retained.
Roger Smith.
Ollie, it looks like a meteor but the framing on the nose im not happy with.
I think a Meteor T.7 – isn’t the framing the nose undercarraige attachment framing?
Roger Smith.
Thanks Bamel/buccsociety – have made note in diary to try and get to Brockworth on June 2nd.
G’day to you stombird. Yep I have read that some considered Whittle difficult to work with and, yes, he lived until the end of his life in the USA. Belated “happy birthday” for Friday – keep yer pecker up.
Pete, I don’t think Whittle had a working design in the 1920s but probably had officialdom believed in his idea the Meteor might have seen earlier service in WW2. Mind you the problem of suitable metal and alloys may still have held him back.
Roger Smith.
Get it off that grass to start with…. ….Pity to see such an airframe just left too rot.
agree. If moving off the grass is impractical try putting down an impervious (waterproof) surface where the aircraft stands – paving slabs on polythene tarpaulin.
Roger Smith.
There is, I think, a forum member from N.Germany who researches WW2 aircraft losses – can’t think of his name/handle offhand though.
Found him – name Nils, Forum name Pathfinder. Perhaps if he doesn’t spot this send him a pm?
Roger Smith.
Al, Hi and welcome to the Forum.
To me it seems quite feasible the aircraft was multi-engined. Possibly when it crashed into the sea the wooden prop blades shattered and some of the pieces would subsequently have floated and may have been found as flotsam.
There is, I think, a forum member from N.Germany who researches WW2 aircraft losses – can’t think of his name/handle offhand though. Let’s hope he sees this – though RAF aircraft/Baltic/sometime in 1940 may be too little info.
Roger Smith.
I’m delighted that John Travolta has a 707 and uses it to get around the World – more power to his elbow I say.
I’d be fascinated to know more about the financial aspects – he obviously has (and needs) deep pockets but can he/does he claim for it as a business expense against tax? How do his costs compare to all the air fares he saves on?
Roger Smith.
I am a little puzzled. The builder has mounted it facing forwards which means has had to modify to take a drive out of the back of the crankcase.
Looks like some fine engineering though. A chap called Webster has been working for some time in the UK on a new-design radial using VW cylinders/pistons – saw it at PFA Rally a couple of years ago.
Roger Smith.
Unless the pilot wrote/meant Hereford!
I had this problem recently in some family history research.
Roger Smith.
Interesting points all….our solution with our own aeroplanes is to restore them ourselves rather than pay someone else to do it – v. rewarding and I’m almost guaranteed not to rip myself off… though being a lawyer, it is always a possibility…:diablo:
TT
Taking this point back to where this discussion started – somone mentioned the high cost of restoring the Prentice. I thought (though I may be wrong) that much of the work being done on the Prentice was by SVAS volunteers – I assume it one one of those that resigned.
I came through the state education system in the days when woodwork and metalwork were still taught – and I think I am the better for it. IF I ever get the chance to fulfil a lifelong ambition to build (or restore to flight) an aeroplane it would be a wooden type calling on the skills I learned at school (and to a lesser degree in aeromodelling).
The home-building fraternity (PFA) have, in the past, provided a source of amatuer skills introduced into restoration – as TT says “doing it ourselves”.
For Guzziniel there is a well established system of PFA Engineers who will inspect, offer advice, etc to PFA members building or restoring an aircraft that will fly on a Permit To Fly.
Sadly it looks like this is changing. 30 years ago nearly all home-builts were of wooden construction – still employing skills established in the earliest days of flight. Now, I get the impression very few “home-builts” are constructed in wood – many are of metal construction and, increasingly, of composite materials (a lot of these in ‘kit’ form).
Efforts are being made by various organisations to interest children in aviation cos, let’s face it, it isn’t as exciting a subject as it was 30 -40 years ago. Then test pilots were famous people and aeroplane first/test flights appeared regularly in our daily papers.
We have got to think of more ways to interest young people in aviation and re-introduce learning practical skills – even if under the term of “leisure activities”.
Roger Smith.
Hi OTC and welcome to the Forum.
The RAFMuseum does require a lengthy walk from the nearest underground station but it is worth it. Don’t forget the Science Museum in London as well as the Imperial War Museum.
If you got as far north as Manchester the aircraft hall within it’s Museum of Science and Industry is well worth a visit – as it is in the city centre, relatively easy to get to. Also at Manchester Airport Viewing Park is the small collection of static display aircraft and I think this site is reachable by bus from the city centre.
The Midland Air Museum at Coventry Airport is about 10 – 15 mins walk from the bus terminus at Toll Bar End. The bus from the city centre stops near to the railway station – (on the UK’s “west coast” line London-Coventry-Birmingham-Manchester-Edinburgh). If you decided to include MAM I could probably arrange to get you there from/back to the city centre.
Solent Sky at Southampton is in/near to the city centre so shouldn’t be to difficult to get to.
Roger Smith.
The look on that chaps face as the door opened up unbeknownst to him is hillarious. Imagine sitting in a cubbyhole nice and wamr working away and suddenly the end wall opens up and now your outside!
That “cubbyhole” if I remember correctly is where the Elsan toilet is situated 😀 😀 😀
Roger Smith.
Wonder if AA will take the opportunity to place the Lanc with the Shackleton for a photo session once restoration is complete and before she flies away?
Roger Smith.