I would echo the advice to contact your local Trading Standards Dept.

It seems all of your communication with them has been verbal. Perhaps you could set out what has happened in a letter. I would further suggest you send the letter to their registered office (address and names of Directors should be available, assuming they are a Limited Company, on the Companies House website).

Good luck, Roger Smith.

ps – welcome to the Forum

Have the 1925 handbook for the Jupiter Series IV (AP 1162 ).

Roger Smith.

Don’t know if Amtrak (the train) is the best way to travel NY – DC but I travelled Chicago – DC (a long journey including over-night) and would thoroughly recommend it. All stories about the poor rail service in the USA proved, in my case certainly, unfounded.

The lengthy trip I undertook by Greyhound wasn’t too bad either.

Roger Smith.

The list that you refer to Roger has some anomolies in it. There are a couple that seem to be referencing the same engine and one of them seem to not exist at all (the ATC example). There are many others that do not appear on the list.

DaveR – mistakes and omissions doesn’t suprise me. I believe that to the vast majority of people in the aircraft preservation world engines are of minor interest and Peter Kirk and others that drew up this list were on a ‘hiding for nothing’. I think it proves extremely difficult to get information about engines held from museums/collections.

Roger Smith.

My research has located a couple of dozen Sabre engines…these range from the ones that could potentially run again to sea recoveries.

The list of UK & Ireland aero engines drawn up by the BAPC 3 years ago lists 15 Sabres – one noted “ex crash site” and two as “sectioned”

Roger Smith.

Wow – they look just like the two Battle cockpit sections that the Midland Aircraft Preservation Society recovered from a scrappie at Lilleshall in the late 1960s.

After sitting in Roger Smith’s parents’ garage for some time I believe that they were eventually considered to be of little value and dumped at a scrappie near Coventry…

How times change!

Gordon – I thought we only got one cockpit section and there was a long, rusty pole with bits hanging off that we worked out was the front of a Battle elevator. I also thought the source was the abandoned scrapyard at Ketley Bank but might stand corrected on that one – it was along time ago.

Anyway to put the record straight the cockpit section wasn’t scrapped by us. It was exchanged with the team at RAF Leeming(?) who were working on the Battle that was recovered from Iceland(?) for the RAFM – the one that had the cockpit destroyed by the crew after forced landing. In exchange we got undercarraige parts to use on the Meteor F.4 which included IIRC a complete nose leg and wheel and a pair of mainwheels and tyres.

I did hear a story that Leeming, in fact, eventually scrapped what they had off us and I think the “rusty pole” was scrapped at MAM (by someone with initials MS) and I was a bit annoyed when I heard it had gone off in a skip.

Finally it was my next-door neighbours garage (my parents never had a car) – get your fact right Gordon or I WILL publish that photo of you and Ron Randall with the new fuselage side for ‘EGV :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

Roger Smith.

He was (maybe still is) great friends with Chuck Yeager and his name appears profusely in Yeager’s autobiography. If I remember correctly they were both Bell test pilots and Hoover was closely involved in the X-1 programme.

Roger Smith.

Do you mean Duxford flying legends? I have been going to airshows since I was about 6 and only recently started going to them again this year…

Sorry Andy – you sometimes need a wierd sense of humour on this forum.

It’s a running joke whenever a new restoration is announced or a new vintage type is to be imported someone will ask “Will it be at Legends?”

Roger Smith.