It is a little amusing that in 1866, when the Aeronautical Society of Great Britain (later to be bestowed with the “Royal” prefix) there were no aircraft, aeroplanes or airplanes – or at least none that could fly – only airships and balloons.
Whilst researching Major R.F.Moore (who designed and had built in Coventry what I shall refer to as a “flying machine”) it was interesting to find that he served on a Society Committe with one S.H.Page (also referred to as Mr. Handley Page) – this was called “The Wings Committee” that dealt with flight by use of what we now refer to as ornithopters*.
An article by Moore in “The Aeronautical Journal” (October, 1906?) titled “Wings versus Aeroplanes” (with the two dots over the first e in Aeroplanes showing it’s French? derivation) argueing the case for the winged machine (ornithopter) over aeroplanes (fixed wings). This was nearly three years after the Wright brothers first powered flight.
I quote – “Wings with their large spread and slow motion give more effective action on the air than the small blades of a screw propeller.”
Of course Americans also tend to use the term “planes” and I remember being told when I was a youngster “a plane is a flat surface, an aeroplane is a flying machine”.
Roger Smith
*anyone know the origins of the word ornithopter and when it came into use?
……Jet Provost XM424 has just taken off and done what looked like a goodbye fly past………
I watched her take off(@11.50)/flyby then turning south….
The Prentice was flying a lot on Friday and Saturday carrying degree students from Coventry University who were carrying out in-flight measurements for part of their course.
On the subject of the Prentice it will be a particularly sad day when she flies away to Newquay – she has been at Coventry Airport I reckon over 45 years. Initially with John Coggins’ City Airways, John also formed/operated for a time The Percival Collection – three Prentices, Prince ‘MLF (now at Speke) and a JP fuselage. John operated Prentice ‘PJB on pleasure flying trips for some years and ownership eventually transferred to Air Atlantique/Classic Flight who restored her and recommenced the pleasure flying ops.
Roger Smith.
I was thinking of “A Year In The Life Of The Shuttleworth Trust”.
This would be a ‘people’ show with all/most of the staff (and some of the volunteers of the SVAS) participating. The aircraft and the land vehicles would form an important but background role.
It could cover a 12 month period starting at the last airshow of the season, through the winter building up to the first airshow of the next season and continuing through the display year back to the last airshow of the season.
Six 30 minute programmes and what great publicity for the Trust and DVDs could be sold.
Roger Smith.
Thanks for the HU – have recorded it to watch later.
Spent a week on summer camp with the ATC at Waddington either 1962 or 63 will have to see if it jogs my memory!!
Roger Smith.
Don’t think it would have been (or is???) G-ADIN. That Gamecock (or parts thereof) has, I believe, always been in the area of Northamptonshire.
Roger Smith.
…….. the fabled F4 that now is resting in a store in Florida! :)………
It continues to rankle with me that the NASM still do not have a Meteor (even in store) whereas an Me 262 is given great prominence 😡
Roger Smith
For “good” read “gorgeous” (Comet)
Nice pics, thanks.
Roger Smith.
Nobody has mentioned what to me seems the obvious answer
A – B = C
Where:
A is the current value of an existing ‘dataplate rebuild’
B is the commercial cost of such a rebuild
C is the value of the dataplate
signed Albert Einstein :D:D
………Slides easily make up to 5 GBP each depending on subject and quality……..
OW MUCH??!! I have got a pension fund then after all :D:D
Roger Smith.
…….Would love to see it again…………. I have a photo taken pre flight, when I can work out how to attach it I will post here…………….
Eddy, I have mailed Barry Clay and will pm you his email address.
He, too, would like to see your photo and I know he will be glad to show you the Tawney Owl if you are able to get to his workshop (just south of Leamington Spa).
Roger Smith.
Which type of Argosy are we talking about? :diablo:
Roger Smith.
Chipmunk Pilots Notes
If I may prevail upon those looking at this thread who are likely experts on the subject
Can you advise me of the value of a Chipmunk PN – it is definitely original.
I have a set ‘on loan’ and would like to make the owner a fair offer (if I can afford it)
Roger Smith.
Wonder if they have this problem in Alabama?
Roger Smith (who occasionally has to drive through Brum and hates it!!!)
All that glass – would be the windowcleaner’s equivalent of the painters on the Forth Bridge 😀
Very nice though.
Roger Smith.
When we got the wing on loan from the RAFMuseum I seem to remember being told the three mainplanes were all the same – ie upper (port or starboard?). Can anyone confirm this? The Siskin was a sesquiplane so the lower mainplanes are considerably smaller.
Coincidentally, at the same time (I think) we got several bits from an RE8 that are also on display in the “Wings Over Coventry” gallery. I wonder why the opportunity wasn’t taken to incorporate these in the ‘new’ example RE8 produced in New Zealand – as were, I read, some Sopwith Snipe parts included in the Snipe?
Roger Smith.